Crazy, after acquiring a blackstone I haven't touched my 4 burner in 2 years just sits all year covered up. You think the price would drop on these more than this
I have the Genesis S-330 with stainless grates since 2011. Weber makes well engineered, albeit overpriced, grills. The advantage for me has been the longevity. Prior to my Weber I would have to replace my grill every few years as they would rust out. With the Weber, I have had to replace the burners and flame tamers once, but other than that it's been very reliable over the years. Thankfully, there are 3rd party parts on Amazon that are much cheaper than the OEM stuff.
I cook my steak with the sear burner and all the other knobs on high. Once the steak is well seared, I slide it to the non-sear side of the grill and finish it. That technique has worked very well for a ton of ribeyes and strips.
The best part of the version I own is the stainless grates IMO. They are still in great condition after 13 years of use. That's what I wonder about this grill with porcelain coated cast iron grates. Are they as easy to clean and as durable? With stainless grates, a quick scrub with a grill brush after cooking, and wipe down with oil while they're still hot, and it's ready for next time. No worries about corrosion.
I have a Genesis II propane. I purchased it from Lowes on clearance for less than $300 4-5 years ago. At this current price, it's a fair deal. If it were more, I'd pass. If it were much less, I'd buy more than one. The grill is solid, get's hot enough to sear steaks, and doesn't flare up too much unless cooking very fatty foods like ribeyes. I use this ocean front where the salt spray ruins lesser (typical $200-300) grills in less than 2-3 years, and makes them look terrible after 1 year. This grill has held up well for 4+ years, and looks not much worse than it did new. My only issue on this grill is the bottom of the legs are not covered with the grill cover, and they are starting to rust and get weak. I will be calling to see if I can get those replaced.
The price was so good on my current grill I use, I bought a spare (floor model) that I knew did not have the electronics installed, and Lowes had lost the wiring kit. A 10 minute phone call to Weber and the serial number of the grill that did not have the wiring kit was all I needed to get Weber to send out a new kit free of charge to me. It was half-way expected given their reputation, but still top notch on their part.
I have no current information as to their customer service, but I have nothing but rave reviews on the performance of the grill, as well as my years old interaction with their CSR. I'd recommend the company and the grill.
The best part of the version I own is the stainless grates IMO. They are still in great condition after 13 years of use. That's what I wonder about this grill with porcelain coated cast iron grates. Are they as easy to clean and as durable? With stainless grates, a quick scrub with a grill brush after cooking, and wipe down with oil while they're still hot, and it's ready for next time. No worries about corrosion.
No, they are not as durable, not even close. Iron is better than SS for heat transfer, but Weber's cast iron is absolute garbage. Specifically, the "porcelain coating" is paper thin and quickly wears off, so the iron starts to rust within a year or two. For comparison, I had porcelain coated iron on my last grill (now defunct company), and those grates were still going strong after 10 years of use. The porcelain on those grates was clearly visible (it was blue) and smooth across the metal -- similar to what you find on an enameled cast iron cookware. On the Weber, the porcelain is barely discernible so obviously quite a bit thinner.
To add insult to injury, I have the last model year Genesis that was made in the U.S., and Weber made the new Genesis grates about 1" smaller...so I can't use any of the new replacements. I have to buy a 3rd party replacement, but I've wavered given quality concerns. I'll likely buy some SS replacements soon for this season.
The rest of the grill is good to very good. It gets incredibly hot (700+ F) for searing, and the exterior has held up extremely well considering it's exposed to the elements (though under a cloth/canvas/vinyl cover when not in use). The "flavor bars" leave something to be desired in terms of durability because, again, the porcelain coating is subpar.
With the issues I've had and for the price, I won't buy another Weber. I've been thinking of switching to something else, but as long as mine is limping along, I'll probably keep using it. If there's a major break, it'll head to the dump.
Crazy, after acquiring a blackstone I haven't touched my 4 burner in 2 years just sits all year covered up. You think the price would drop on these more than this
I have the Genesis S-330 with stainless grates since 2011. Weber makes well engineered, albeit overpriced, grills. The advantage for me has been the longevity. Prior to my Weber I would have to replace my grill every few years as they would rust out. With the Weber, I have had to replace the burners and flame tamers once, but other than that it's been very reliable over the years. Thankfully, there are 3rd party parts on Amazon that are much cheaper than the OEM stuff.
I cook my steak with the sear burner and all the other knobs on high. Once the steak is well seared, I slide it to the non-sear side of the grill and finish it. That technique has worked very well for a ton of ribeyes and strips.
The best part of the version I own is the stainless grates IMO. They are still in great condition after 13 years of use. That's what I wonder about this grill with porcelain coated cast iron grates. Are they as easy to clean and as durable? With stainless grates, a quick scrub with a grill brush after cooking, and wipe down with oil while they're still hot, and it's ready for next time. No worries about corrosion.
I have the Genesis S-330 with stainless grates since 2011. Weber makes well engineered, albeit overpriced, grills. The advantage for me has been the longevity. Prior to my Weber I would have to replace my grill every few years as they would rust out. With the Weber, I have had to replace the burners and flame tamers once, but other than that it's been very reliable over the years. Thankfully, there are 3rd party parts on Amazon that are much cheaper than the OEM stuff.
I cook my steak with the sear burner and all the other knobs on high. Once the steak is well seared, I slide it to the non-sear side of the grill and finish it. That technique has worked very well for a ton of ribeyes and strips.
The best part of the version I own is the stainless grates IMO. They are still in great condition after 13 years of use. That's what I wonder about this grill with porcelain coated cast iron grates. Are they as easy to clean and as durable? With stainless grates, a quick scrub with a grill brush after cooking, and wipe down with oil while they're still hot, and it's ready for next time. No worries about corrosion.
Best way to get these grills is from estate sales and garage sales. I picked up a 435 last year in a custom color with an extra propane tank for $325. Power washed it, threw on some new grates and searng tents, and poof- new grill
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Edit: it's propane at my store.
For the Natural Gas version?
Nevermind.
It's propane. Thanks.
I cook my steak with the sear burner and all the other knobs on high. Once the steak is well seared, I slide it to the non-sear side of the grill and finish it. That technique has worked very well for a ton of ribeyes and strips.
The best part of the version I own is the stainless grates IMO. They are still in great condition after 13 years of use. That's what I wonder about this grill with porcelain coated cast iron grates. Are they as easy to clean and as durable? With stainless grates, a quick scrub with a grill brush after cooking, and wipe down with oil while they're still hot, and it's ready for next time. No worries about corrosion.
The price was so good on my current grill I use, I bought a spare (floor model) that I knew did not have the electronics installed, and Lowes had lost the wiring kit. A 10 minute phone call to Weber and the serial number of the grill that did not have the wiring kit was all I needed to get Weber to send out a new kit free of charge to me. It was half-way expected given their reputation, but still top notch on their part.
I have no current information as to their customer service, but I have nothing but rave reviews on the performance of the grill, as well as my years old interaction with their CSR. I'd recommend the company and the grill.
To add insult to injury, I have the last model year Genesis that was made in the U.S., and Weber made the new Genesis grates about 1" smaller...so I can't use any of the new replacements. I have to buy a 3rd party replacement, but I've wavered given quality concerns. I'll likely buy some SS replacements soon for this season.
The rest of the grill is good to very good. It gets incredibly hot (700+ F) for searing, and the exterior has held up extremely well considering it's exposed to the elements (though under a cloth/canvas/vinyl cover when not in use). The "flavor bars" leave something to be desired in terms of durability because, again, the porcelain coating is subpar.
With the issues I've had and for the price, I won't buy another Weber. I've been thinking of switching to something else, but as long as mine is limping along, I'll probably keep using it. If there's a major break, it'll head to the dump.
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I've been looking for an opportunity to upgrade to a decent weber.
I cook my steak with the sear burner and all the other knobs on high. Once the steak is well seared, I slide it to the non-sear side of the grill and finish it. That technique has worked very well for a ton of ribeyes and strips.
The best part of the version I own is the stainless grates IMO. They are still in great condition after 13 years of use. That's what I wonder about this grill with porcelain coated cast iron grates. Are they as easy to clean and as durable? With stainless grates, a quick scrub with a grill brush after cooking, and wipe down with oil while they're still hot, and it's ready for next time. No worries about corrosion.
I second this. I have a 4 burner and it's great
I cook my steak with the sear burner and all the other knobs on high. Once the steak is well seared, I slide it to the non-sear side of the grill and finish it. That technique has worked very well for a ton of ribeyes and strips.
The best part of the version I own is the stainless grates IMO. They are still in great condition after 13 years of use. That's what I wonder about this grill with porcelain coated cast iron grates. Are they as easy to clean and as durable? With stainless grates, a quick scrub with a grill brush after cooking, and wipe down with oil while they're still hot, and it's ready for next time. No worries about corrosion.