Micro Center has Computer Build Combo: Intel Core i7-13700K + MSI Z790-P Pro Motherboard + 32GB G.Skill Ripjaws S5 DDR5-6000 Memory on sale for $499.99. Select free store pickup where stock permits.
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Bundle Includes:
Intel Core i7-13700K Raptor Lake 3.4GHz Twenty-Core LGA 1700 Boxed Processor (Heatsink Not Included)
MSI Z790-P Pro WiFi Intel LGA 1700 ATX Motherboard
Need to be 50-75 bucks cheaper..not a good deal imo
I got both 12900k bundle and this one 13700k bundle from microcenter in the past 2 weeks.
Here are my thoughts:
1. Asus board is better. I had issues with not recognizing nvme and slow boot time with MSI board. The MSI's default voltage is too high and causing high cpu temp, especially with enhanced turbo on. No issues with asus board although you need to get a nvme heatsink since it's not provided with the board.
2. I undervolted both CPUs. Set offset -0.070 and -0.05 and power limited 125w and 120w pl1/pl2 on 12900k and 13700k respectively. 12900k lost about 12% and 13700k lost about 18% in multi thread but the temperatures are <65 c under benchmark and still about 10% faster than 13600k. Gaming temp is around 50-55 c. Overall 13700k runs slightly hotter but still scores better than 12900k in multi thread.
If you are buying for gaming only, just get the 12900k. It's a lot cheaper and the fps is almost the same between these two CPUs.
It is for gaming purpose but there's plenty of pleople needs their desktop for productivity reasons. Even though ryzen's been a great alternatives, a lot of productivity softwares tend to support intels better.
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I got both 12900k bundle and this one 13700k bundle from microcenter in the past 2 weeks.
Here are my thoughts:
1. Asus board is better. I had issues with not recognizing nvme and slow boot time with MSI board. The MSI's default voltage is too high and causing high cpu temp, especially with enhanced turbo on. No issues with asus board although you need to get a nvme heatsink since it's not provided with the board.
2. I undervolted both CPUs. Set offset -0.070 and -0.05 and power limited 125w and 120w pl1/pl2 on 12900k and 13700k respectively. 12900k lost about 12% and 13700k lost about 18% in multi thread but the temperatures are <65 c under benchmark and still about 10% faster than 13600k. Gaming temp is around 50-55 c. Overall 13700k runs slightly hotter but still scores better than 12900k in multi thread.
If you are buying for gaming only, just get the 12900k. It's a lot cheaper and the fps is almost the same between these two CPUs.
I bought the MSI board (elsewhere, not as a bundle). Regarding CPU temperatures, I noticed that it defaults to liquid cooling settings. I switched it to air cooling settings, and it seems to run fine (I also tweaked the fan curve so it starts lower/quieter and goes up slightly faster)
What are people's thoughts on this bundle compared to the $400 i9 12900k bundle? Seems like this one has slightly better mobo and cpu but worth the extra $100?
I went down this rabbit hole recently of trying to figure out the best options for my build. An 13700k and 12900k are basically the same when looking at performance and gaming. It would be rare that you notice any differences.
The MSI motherboard has some nice features, but so does the ASUS and they are about equal and trade off on things that won't matter to most folks. 10 slots for SSD's on MSI compared to ASUS 7. 3 PCI slots compared to 4 on ASUS, but the graphics card will block one on ASUS.
My recommendation and what I did was go with the cheaper option and save $100.
I bought the MSI board (elsewhere, not as a bundle). Regarding CPU temperatures, I noticed that it defaults to liquid cooling settings. I switched it to air cooling settings, and it seems to run fine (I also tweaked the fan curve so it starts lower/quieter and goes up slightly faster)
Air cooling limits the PL2 to 250w so you will get a lower peak temp but voltage is till too high. A quick voltage offset will drop another 10 c
Would this require a heatsink or water cooler if bought for a non-gaming work desktop? (gazillion tabs internet browsing + Office apps multitasking + Zoom)
Is anyone running an ESXi environment with this? I seriously need to upgrade from a AMD FX-8120. I'd love to know what your running, amount of RAM etc.. and your opinion running multiple virtual machines. My lab needs an upgrade.
I got both 12900k bundle and this one 13700k bundle from microcenter in the past 2 weeks.
Here are my thoughts:
1. Asus board is better. I had issues with not recognizing nvme and slow boot time with MSI board. The MSI's default voltage is too high and causing high cpu temp, especially with enhanced turbo on. No issues with asus board although you need to get a nvme heatsink since it's not provided with the board.
2. I undervolted both CPUs. Set offset -0.070 and -0.05 and power limited 125w and 120w pl1/pl2 on 12900k and 13700k respectively. 12900k lost about 12% and 13700k lost about 18% in multi thread but the temperatures are <65 c under benchmark and still about 10% faster than 13600k. Gaming temp is around 50-55 c. Overall 13700k runs slightly hotter but still scores better than 12900k in multi thread.
If you are buying for gaming only, just get the 12900k. It's a lot cheaper and the fps is almost the same between these two CPUs.
Does anyone have any guidance on the 12900 vs 13700 deal for my planned use case of MSFS2020/2024 on relatively high settings, and some PCVR? Obviously the GPU needs to be a beast but I want to make sure the CPU isn't a bottleneck either.
Will a noctua nh-d15 be enough to cool either of these? Stock ? Overclocked? Yes, my case is big enough and has plenty of ventilation.
Does anyone have any guidance on the 12900 vs 13700 deal for my planned use case of MSFS2020/2024 on relatively high settings, and some PCVR? Obviously the GPU needs to be a beast but I want to make sure the CPU isn't a bottleneck either.
Will a noctua nh-d15 be enough to cool either of these? Stock ? Overclocked? Yes, my case is big enough and has plenty of ventilation.
They are essentially the same CPU, certainly not worth $100 upgrade.
The Noctua NH-D15 should be fine, but would likely not be good enough for overclocking. Depends on your chip and undervoltage capabilities.
i9 12900K bundle is $399 buy it sell the 12900K still sells for $300 and get i7 14700K for $370 at microcenter total will be around same $500 and you will have faster 14th gen
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Here are my thoughts:
1. Asus board is better. I had issues with not recognizing nvme and slow boot time with MSI board. The MSI's default voltage is too high and causing high cpu temp, especially with enhanced turbo on. No issues with asus board although you need to get a nvme heatsink since it's not provided with the board.
2. I undervolted both CPUs. Set offset -0.070 and -0.05 and power limited 125w and 120w pl1/pl2 on 12900k and 13700k respectively. 12900k lost about 12% and 13700k lost about 18% in multi thread but the temperatures are <65 c under benchmark and still about 10% faster than 13600k. Gaming temp is around 50-55 c. Overall 13700k runs slightly hotter but still scores better than 12900k in multi thread.
If you are buying for gaming only, just get the 12900k. It's a lot cheaper and the fps is almost the same between these two CPUs.
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When ps5 is $499 there is an absolute cap on buying PC for gaming. Sure 90 fps on Cyberpunk at full ultra is a nice thing to have but at what cost?
Interest rates are high now. It is a national warning to keep your money. When rates are low, splurge.
Here are my thoughts:
1. Asus board is better. I had issues with not recognizing nvme and slow boot time with MSI board. The MSI's default voltage is too high and causing high cpu temp, especially with enhanced turbo on. No issues with asus board although you need to get a nvme heatsink since it's not provided with the board.
2. I undervolted both CPUs. Set offset -0.070 and -0.05 and power limited 125w and 120w pl1/pl2 on 12900k and 13700k respectively. 12900k lost about 12% and 13700k lost about 18% in multi thread but the temperatures are <65 c under benchmark and still about 10% faster than 13600k. Gaming temp is around 50-55 c. Overall 13700k runs slightly hotter but still scores better than 12900k in multi thread.
If you are buying for gaming only, just get the 12900k. It's a lot cheaper and the fps is almost the same between these two CPUs.
I bought the MSI board (elsewhere, not as a bundle). Regarding CPU temperatures, I noticed that it defaults to liquid cooling settings. I switched it to air cooling settings, and it seems to run fine (I also tweaked the fan curve so it starts lower/quieter and goes up slightly faster)
I went down this rabbit hole recently of trying to figure out the best options for my build. An 13700k and 12900k are basically the same when looking at performance and gaming. It would be rare that you notice any differences.
The MSI motherboard has some nice features, but so does the ASUS and they are about equal and trade off on things that won't matter to most folks. 10 slots for SSD's on MSI compared to ASUS 7. 3 PCI slots compared to 4 on ASUS, but the graphics card will block one on ASUS.
My recommendation and what I did was go with the cheaper option and save $100.
Air cooling limits the PL2 to 250w so you will get a lower peak temp but voltage is till too high. A quick voltage offset will drop another 10 c
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Here are my thoughts:
1. Asus board is better. I had issues with not recognizing nvme and slow boot time with MSI board. The MSI's default voltage is too high and causing high cpu temp, especially with enhanced turbo on. No issues with asus board although you need to get a nvme heatsink since it's not provided with the board.
2. I undervolted both CPUs. Set offset -0.070 and -0.05 and power limited 125w and 120w pl1/pl2 on 12900k and 13700k respectively. 12900k lost about 12% and 13700k lost about 18% in multi thread but the temperatures are <65 c under benchmark and still about 10% faster than 13600k. Gaming temp is around 50-55 c. Overall 13700k runs slightly hotter but still scores better than 12900k in multi thread.
If you are buying for gaming only, just get the 12900k. It's a lot cheaper and the fps is almost the same between these two CPUs.
Does anyone have any guidance on the 12900 vs 13700 deal for my planned use case of MSFS2020/2024 on relatively high settings, and some PCVR? Obviously the GPU needs to be a beast but I want to make sure the CPU isn't a bottleneck either.
Will a noctua nh-d15 be enough to cool either of these? Stock ? Overclocked? Yes, my case is big enough and has plenty of ventilation.
Will a noctua nh-d15 be enough to cool either of these? Stock ? Overclocked? Yes, my case is big enough and has plenty of ventilation.
The Noctua NH-D15 should be fine, but would likely not be good enough for overclocking. Depends on your chip and undervoltage capabilities.
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? Still shows $500 for me. https://www.microcenter
It was a flash sale. Price is back to $500 now.