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16" Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-1600SW 1600W High Excursion Subwoofer Expired

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Adorama has 16" Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-1600SW 1600W High Excursion Subwoofer (1070652, Ebony Vinyl) on sale for $999. Shipping is free.

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Product Details:
  • Spun Copper Front-Firing Cerametallic Woofers
  • High Efficiency Class-D Amplifier
  • Front-Firing Slot Port With Exclusive Internal Flare Technology
  • Flexible Controls
  • 1/2-Watt Standby Mode
  • Inputs: Dual RCA/LFE Line In, WA-2 Wireless Port
  • Dimensions (H x W x D): 23.39 x 23.50 x 27.35" (59.4 x 59.7 x 69.5cm)
  • Weight: 110.9 lbs (50.3kg)
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Model: Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-1600SW 16" 1600W High Excursion Subwoofer

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The 14" has better output between 20-55hz, so it's better for music. The 16" has better output in the subsonic range so it will be better for movies.

Overall, the 14" already has very good power, great extension, and is the best value as it's currently competing with other $1,000-$1,500 subs on the market. It's also about the biggest subwoofer I can pick up and carry myself, I probably wouldn't be able to get my arms under/around the 16" to pick it up off the ground and move it across the house if needed as it's quite a bit bigger (120L vs. 168L) and you can't slide these subs on their rubber feet.

Here is the frequency response comparison between the RP-1400 and RP-1600 (check the 4th image at the top): https://www.reddit.com/r/homethea...subs_from/
I have two 1400sw and there is no port chuffing...as many reviewers would agree. Where are you getting this conclusion?
These subs are being sold at extremely high discounts because inflated MSRP + massive discount is Klipsch's standard M.O.

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05-12-2024 at 10:07 PM.
05-12-2024 at 10:07 PM.
Quote from crazyoversports :
I honestly have no idea why anyone needs this. Even a 14". I recently bought the RSL 10e and it's more than enough for my basement.
Everyone's environment and needs are different.

Glad you're liking the 10e - considering replacing one of my larger svs with that to try and run as a near field sub.
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05-12-2024 at 10:46 PM.
05-12-2024 at 10:46 PM.
Quote from crazyoversports :
I honestly have no idea why anyone needs this. Even a 14". I recently bought the RSL 10e and it's more than enough for my basement.
There's lot more to a subwoofer than 50Hz boom. Actually, 50Hz is likely where your 10-inch sub peaks. Probably down 15dB by 20Hz in a 100sqft bedroom, and non-existent in a larger room. I do like the space-efficiency of some smaller subs though, so don't get me wrong there - I'd love a pair of SVS SB-2000 for the master bedroom. Such small subs, plus acoustic coupling, would be bliss for a lower-spl environment.

This Klipsch is probably a good performer, if its amp holds up for 20 years.
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2Slick2Quit
05-13-2024 at 08:01 AM.
05-13-2024 at 08:01 AM.
Quote from boobernackle :
These subwoofers are being sold at these extremely high discounts due to significant port chuffing at even moderate volumes when playing the low frequencies, which is where the subwoofer is most active.

They were released with a lot of fanfare to tackle other brands like SVS, but sadly the port chuffing is significant. I expect these to be redesigned in the not so distant future.

I own 2 of the RP-1400SW and it is fantastic, no port chuffing. Very responsive for the amount of SPL.

I also own a SVS PB-2000 which got transferred from theater to bedroom duty, and the dual RP-1400s blow it away. Prior to getting the two 1400s for $1400 on the prior deal here, I had considered getting a PB-2000 Pro, but just one of them was $1000+. For the price, nothing else in the industry can touch these subs.
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05-13-2024 at 08:52 AM.
05-13-2024 at 08:52 AM.
Quote from 2Slick2Quit :
I own 2 of the RP-1400SW and it is fantastic, no port chuffing. Very responsive for the amount of SPL.

I also own a SVS PB-2000 which got transferred from theater to bedroom duty, and the dual RP-1400s blow it away. Prior to getting the two 1400s for $1400 on the prior deal here, I had considered getting a PB-2000 Pro, but just one of them was $1000+. For the price, nothing else in the industry can touch these subs.
Glad they're working out for you... the value of these subs I feel is incredible, my initial comment was aimed at the 16" that OP referenced, since they're larger and are capable of pushing more air, hence a higher chance of port chuffing. That's the one Audioholics reviewed and mentioned the port chuffing even at moderate volumes, seems it rubbed the Klipsch folks the wrong way given all the downvotes.
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05-13-2024 at 10:53 AM.
05-13-2024 at 10:53 AM.
Guessing this is too much for someone in an apartment building?
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05-13-2024 at 10:57 AM.
05-13-2024 at 10:57 AM.
Quote from dirtykooldogg :
Guessing this is too much for someone in an apartment building?
How much do you want your neighbors to hate you?

Truth be told, you'll just have to turn it down. It'll still work great.
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05-13-2024 at 11:19 AM.
05-13-2024 at 11:19 AM.
Quote from boobernackle :
Glad they're working out for you... the value of these subs I feel is incredible, my initial comment was aimed at the 16" that OP referenced, since they're larger and are capable of pushing more air, hence a higher chance of port chuffing. That's the one Audioholics reviewed and mentioned the port chuffing even at moderate volumes, seems it rubbed the Klipsch folks the wrong way given all the downvotes.
your comment got downvoted because people felt that it was unsubstantiated generalizations, which it was, and it didn't help that you were apparently posting FUD about a sub that you don't even own.

the audioholics review gave far more weight to things that really matter, like the insanely flat frequency response of this sub:

"The above graph shows the measured frequency response for the RP-1600SW subwoofer. What we have here is a beautifully flat curve from 16Hz to almost 160Hz, and it's a shame that typical room acoustics are going to badly mangle this pristine response. At least we know that the sub itself is almost completely neutral out of the box. Any tonal abnormalities that end users will hear will be a result of the room, not the sub itself. Many subs can achieve very flat anechoic responses through DSP magic, but this one is particularly flat. I like Klipsch's target response of a 16Hz extension before any drop-off. 16Hz is the lower limit of almost any acoustic instrument."

doing that with a ported sub is a feat of magic, they must have had to make compromises in the port design to achieve it... i would have liked to have seen testing with the port plugged.

Quote from boobernackle :
capable of pushing more air, hence a higher chance of port chuffing.
chuffing is the result of design choices, it's not about "more air".

if you are spending $1k on a sub you should be using REW for proper sub placement, which can easily allow for sufficient volume with a flat response, where chuffing isn't an issue.
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05-13-2024 at 11:43 AM.
05-13-2024 at 11:43 AM.
This is a good entry level sub at a very cheap price
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05-13-2024 at 11:52 AM.
05-13-2024 at 11:52 AM.
Quote from BaaliBandapirrla :
This is a good entry level sub at a very cheap price

Haha. Troll.
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05-13-2024 at 12:28 PM.
05-13-2024 at 12:28 PM.
How does this compare to the new HSU and other ported offering at around a g?
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05-13-2024 at 12:52 PM.
05-13-2024 at 12:52 PM.
Quote from BaaliBandapirrla :
This is a good entry level sub at a very cheap price
No, the JBL 550P is a good entry level sub at a very cheap price when it's $175. This is not an entry level sub.
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05-13-2024 at 02:19 PM.
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Quote from osv1 :
your comment got downvoted because people felt that it was unsubstantiated generalizations, which it was, and it didn't help that you were apparently posting FUD about a sub that you don't even own.

the audioholics review gave far more weight to things that really matter, like the insanely flat frequency response of this sub:

"The above graph shows the measured frequency response for the RP-1600SW subwoofer. What we have here is a beautifully flat curve from 16Hz to almost 160Hz, and it's a shame that typical room acoustics are going to badly mangle this pristine response. At least we know that the sub itself is almost completely neutral out of the box. Any tonal abnormalities that end users will hear will be a result of the room, not the sub itself. Many subs can achieve very flat anechoic responses through DSP magic, but this one is particularly flat. I like Klipsch's target response of a 16Hz extension before any drop-off. 16Hz is the lower limit of almost any acoustic instrument."

doing that with a ported sub is a feat of magic, they must have had to make compromises in the port design to achieve it... i would have liked to have seen testing with the port plugged.



chuffing is the result of design choices, it's not about "more air".

if you are spending $1k on a sub you should be using REW for proper sub placement, which can easily allow for sufficient volume with a flat response, where chuffing isn't an issue.
Sorry buddy, there is no "FUD" in my prior comment, I posted it then backed it up by a reputable review website with factual data, not opinion. It's a great sub, especially at this price of $1K, I just wanted to ensure people knew this sub has one limitation that didn't require it to be pushed hard.

It's a massive 16" sub, likely to be driven hard, as it should, yes it has a relatively flat FR to 16 Hz, but push it at relative (no need to drive it hard) volume and you get port chuffing, says it right there in the article. That is a killer for me and needed to be pointed out, it's not easy trying to return a sub of this weight if it's not something you're aware of beforehand. I seriously considered this sub when it was first released and prior to these discounts, but waited for a proper review and the port noise at moderate volumes is a no go for me.

This 16" sub has the same port design as the smaller subs in its product line, that's why it's evident in port chuffing since it's being pushed beyond its limits of the design, it isn't capable of moving the amount of air required without turbulence since it's exceeding the port tuning of the sub. Entirely up to the purchaser what they want to go for. I'm sure the smaller versions are fine, but that's not what OP posted.
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05-13-2024 at 02:50 PM.
05-13-2024 at 02:50 PM.
Quote from boobernackle :
Sorry buddy, there is no "FUD" in my prior comment, I posted it then backed it up by a reputable review website with factual data
you made a false generalization: "significant port chuffing at even moderate volumes"

then quoted text that failed to back up your claim: "A minor problem that I noted was that somewhat loud drive levels under 20Hz could push the RP-1600SW into port turbulence. It needed to be pushed to make that happen, but it didn't need to be pushed really hard."

once again: you got downvoted because you posted FUD about a sub that you don't even own.

Quote from boobernackle :
This 16" sub has the same port design as the smaller subs in its product line
your reddit link indicates that this 16" sub has a flatter curve than the 14" sub, it's not the same thing, your own link proves that you are wrong.
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05-13-2024 at 03:03 PM.
05-13-2024 at 03:03 PM.
Quote from osv1 :
you made a false generalization: "significant port chuffing at even moderate volumes"

then quoted text that failed to back up your claim: "A minor problem that I noted was that somewhat loud drive levels under 20Hz could push the RP-1600SW into port turbulence. It needed to be pushed to make that happen, but it didn't need to be pushed really hard."

once again: you got downvoted because you posted FUD about a sub that you don't even own.



your reddit link indicates that this 16" sub has a flatter curve than the 14" sub, it's not the same thing, your own link proves that you are wrong.
I never posted a Reddit link, that was somebody else.

You again glance over the "it didn't need to be pushed really hard".

Have a nice day.
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05-13-2024 at 06:20 PM.
05-13-2024 at 06:20 PM.
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Guessing this is too much for someone in an apartment building?
Only if you're a professional upstairs neighbor.
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