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16" Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-1600SW 1600W High Excursion Subwoofer Expired

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Adorama has 16" Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-1600SW 1600W High Excursion Subwoofer (1070652, Ebony Vinyl) on sale for $999. Shipping is free.

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Product Details:
  • Spun Copper Front-Firing Cerametallic Woofers
  • High Efficiency Class-D Amplifier
  • Front-Firing Slot Port With Exclusive Internal Flare Technology
  • Flexible Controls
  • 1/2-Watt Standby Mode
  • Inputs: Dual RCA/LFE Line In, WA-2 Wireless Port
  • Dimensions (H x W x D): 23.39 x 23.50 x 27.35" (59.4 x 59.7 x 69.5cm)
  • Weight: 110.9 lbs (50.3kg)
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Model: Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-1600SW 16" 1600W High Excursion Subwoofer

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The 14" has better output between 20-55hz, so it's better for music. The 16" has better output in the subsonic range so it will be better for movies.

Overall, the 14" already has very good power, great extension, and is the best value as it's currently competing with other $1,000-$1,500 subs on the market. It's also about the biggest subwoofer I can pick up and carry myself, I probably wouldn't be able to get my arms under/around the 16" to pick it up off the ground and move it across the house if needed as it's quite a bit bigger (120L vs. 168L) and you can't slide these subs on their rubber feet.

Here is the frequency response comparison between the RP-1400 and RP-1600 (check the 4th image at the top): https://www.reddit.com/r/homethea...subs_from/
I have two 1400sw and there is no port chuffing...as many reviewers would agree. Where are you getting this conclusion?
These subs are being sold at extremely high discounts because inflated MSRP + massive discount is Klipsch's standard M.O.

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FairLumber109
05-13-2024 at 08:00 PM.
05-13-2024 at 08:00 PM.
How's this compare to dual 14"?
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duc135
05-13-2024 at 10:31 PM.
05-13-2024 at 10:31 PM.
Quote from boobernackle :
You again glance over the "it didn't need to be pushed really hard".
Sorry, but how you presented the information is nowhere close to the full quote. You seemed to be guilty of the same thing you accused the other poster of. You glanced over the first part of the reviewer's claims. The full quote stated that it was a "minor problem" at "somewhat loud drive levels under 20Hz" and "It needed to be pushed to make that happen..."

You made it seem like listening at moderate levels the port chuffing was severe. That is simply not the case as the reviewer you quoted stated it required some effort and it was "minor". Significant (your words) is not the same as "minor" (reviewer's words). Same with "moderate levels" (your words) is not the same as "somewhat loud" (reviewer's words). Disclaimer: loudness levels are subjective. One person's moderate could be the same as another person's stupid loud.

It should be noted that most movies (and even less mainstream music) do not contain <20Hz content that would cause this "minor problem" to occur. Most people chasing those frequencies will not be buying this sub so the amount of people affected by this would be very small. They will most likely be looking at 18" (or 24") drivers and multiples of them.

And no, I was not one of the people that downvoted your post. I just think you were overexaggerating the problem and posted a link to a review that did not back up your claim.
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duc135
05-13-2024 at 10:42 PM.
05-13-2024 at 10:42 PM.
Quote from FairLumber109 :
How's this compare to dual 14"?
Dual 14"s will potentially give you flatter frequency response if properly placed and integrated into the room and system. Placed near each other, it will give you an additional 6dB of headroom.

If a single 14" is loud enough for you then upgrading to the 16" will be of no benefit. Go with a second 14" for better frequency response if you are willing to put in the time and effort to implement it correctly. I haven't looked at the SPL frequency graphs so I can't really comment on which will get louder and sound better if the two 14" subs were placed near each other vs. a single 16" sub. I can only assume the two 14" subs will be louder than a single 16" . Do you even have the space to put two 14" subs next to each other?
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05-14-2024 at 07:42 AM.
05-14-2024 at 07:42 AM.
Quote from fintlewoodlewix :
Show me some third party CEA-2010 measurements, like from Audioholics. That reddit thread just has "nominal volume" which means nothing. These subs can go way, way over 100db no problem. Both the 1400 and 1600 will be excellent for music, and the 1600 will probably be able to a bit louder without distortion. Maybe 3-6db louder is my guess, but without measurements, we have no chance of knowing for sure.

I'm sure there's a possibility of chuffing. Audioholics doesn't play. I'm surprised they didn't measure the sound, though. I'd be shocked if it's audible more than .01% of the time. How often are you blasting the sub but nothing else? Perhaps in a few annoying movies.

That all said, I'd get two 1400s over one 1600, and I'd get three 1400s over two 1600s, but I except that one 1400 is more than enough for 99.99% of us. I have a 1400 and I have an SVS PB16 in separate rooms, and I have to turn both of them way the hell down despite having pretty strong speakers with both.
I understand we don't have true measurements, but if Klipsch is showing that the RP-1400 has higher "nominal volume" than the RP-1600 between 20-30hz, then I do believe that the RP-1400 is going to hit harder for music and that the RP-1600 is not going to actually be 3-6db louder in that range. This is what I based my entire purchase decision on when I bought the 14" one day before the 16" went on sale for $999 and I need this to be true to avoid buyer's remorse.
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05-14-2024 at 08:32 AM.
05-14-2024 at 08:32 AM.
Quote from duc135 :
Dual 14"s will potentially give you flatter frequency response if properly placed and integrated into the room and system. Placed near each other, it will give you an additional 6dB of headroom.

If a single 14" is loud enough for you then upgrading to the 16" will be of no benefit. Go with a second 14" for better frequency response if you are willing to put in the time and effort to implement it correctly. I haven't looked at the SPL frequency graphs so I can't really comment on which will get louder and sound better if the two 14" subs were placed near each other vs. a single 16" sub. I can only assume the two 14" subs will be louder than a single 16" . Do you even have the space to put two 14" subs next to each other?
Whether two 14s match one 16 will depend on the frequency you're looking at. I bet at 150 hz, where you probably won't be using them, then two 14s will be louder. At 20 Hz and below? My bet would be on the 16. But that all said, two 14s is going to do much better for room modes than one 16.
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05-14-2024 at 04:36 PM.
05-14-2024 at 04:36 PM.
Quote from fintlewoodlewix :
Whether two 14s match one 16 will depend on the frequency you're looking at. I bet at 150 hz, where you probably won't be using them, then two 14s will be louder. At 20 Hz and below? My bet would be on the 16. But that all said, two 14s is going to do much better for room modes than one 16.
Based on the data Klipsch released, a single RP-1400 hits harder at 20hz than an RP-1600.

I still want to stack an RP-1400 on top of an RP-1600 thoe ( •̀ᴗ•́ )
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05-14-2024 at 06:02 PM.
05-14-2024 at 06:02 PM.
Quote from bbier :
I understand we don't have true measurements, but if Klipsch is showing that the RP-1400 has higher "nominal volume" than the RP-1600 between 20-30hz, then I do believe that the RP-1400 is going to hit harder for music and that the RP-1600 is not going to actually be 3-6db louder in that range. This is what I based my entire purchase decision on when I bought the 14" one day before the 16" went on sale for $999 and I need this to be true to avoid buyer's remorse.

I have buyers remorse too with a similar situation and alas the 1400 is too expensive to return. The most impressive thing about the 1600 is how flat it is till 100hz. Meaning setting speakers crossovers will be a smooth transition. The 1400 in fact does a weird thing at 10hz but there is likely very little actual material at that range.

I have the 115sw which is basically the spl150 and If you look at the Reddit graph I personally don't hear much of a difference of the 1400 over the 115sw despite the frequency graph. The frequency changes from 1400 to 1600 are much more minor and likely imperceptible. I can't remember what I paid for the 115sw but it was a fry's deal and likely half of the 1400 vs the 1600 which is 2.5 times the price. It's the law of diminishing returns in audio and can easily spend a lot more money without much actual audible improvement.
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miken5678
05-15-2024 at 10:36 PM.
05-15-2024 at 10:36 PM.
Quote from JonathanJ7608 :
Yeah, That guy is spewing FUD... have had my 1400's maxed an not an ounce of chuffing. As a matter a fact, these subs where designed to counteract port chuffing:

FRONT-FIRING SLOT PORT WITH EXCLUSIVE INTERNAL FLARE TECHNOLOGY

Proprietary internal geometry with a new Aerofoil slot port design minimizes port noise for clean undistorted low frequencies. The front-firing design allows for placement flexibility.
I had mine going pretty hard one day and noticed a hot smell. It wasn't clipping but a def hot smell and wood smell. Read another reviewer having the same issue, hasnt happened again but it caught me by surprise. Love the sub and want a second but wondered if you experienced the same symptom.
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05-16-2024 at 05:00 AM.
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My 16 arrives today! Thanks again Adorama for the deals.
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05-19-2024 at 06:49 PM.
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Quote from miken5678 :
I had mine going pretty hard one day and noticed a hot smell. It wasn't clipping but a def hot smell and wood smell. Read another reviewer having the same issue, hasnt happened again but it caught me by surprise. Love the sub and want a second but wondered if you experienced the same symptom.

That's a burnt voice coil filling the cabinet with smoke. You've welded the copper coils together. If it's under warranty, mail the driver to Klipsch for a replacement.
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05-22-2024 at 04:21 PM.
05-22-2024 at 04:21 PM.
Was $999 the cheapest the 16" has gone for so far? This deal is already donezo so it might mean it was the better deal than the 14" for $699 which is still active.
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