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Onkyo TX-RZ50 9.2-Channel 8K/4K Network AV Receiver

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Adorama has Onkyo TX-RZ50 9.2-Channel 8K/4K Network AV Receiver on sale for $799. Shipping is free.

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About this Item:
  • 20 W/Ch (8 ohms, 20 Hz-20 kHz, 0.08% THD, 2-ch driven, FTC)
  • 250 W/Ch (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 10% THD, 1-ch driven)
  • 5.2.4-ch/7.2.2-ch Dolby Atmos and DTS: X playback
  • Dolby Atmos Height Virtualizer and DTS Virtual: X 3D sound virtualization technologies
  • Stream over 5 GHz/2.4 GHz dual-band Wi-Fi
  • Send or receive audio via bi-directionalf Bluetooth wireless technology
  • Apple AirPlay 2
  • Works with Hey Google or Alexa
  • 11.2-ch processing and pre-outs for 7.2.4 layouts
  • Supports Dirac Live Room Correction
  • AccuReflex phase-matching solution for Atmos-enabled speakers
  • SMART AV Receiver
  • HDMI Sub/Zone 2 Out for media transmission to a second display

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Adorama has Onkyo TX-RZ50 9.2-Channel 8K/4K Network AV Receiver on sale for $799. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Deal Editor iconian for sharing this deal.

About this Item:
  • 20 W/Ch (8 ohms, 20 Hz-20 kHz, 0.08% THD, 2-ch driven, FTC)
  • 250 W/Ch (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 10% THD, 1-ch driven)
  • 5.2.4-ch/7.2.2-ch Dolby Atmos and DTS: X playback
  • Dolby Atmos Height Virtualizer and DTS Virtual: X 3D sound virtualization technologies
  • Stream over 5 GHz/2.4 GHz dual-band Wi-Fi
  • Send or receive audio via bi-directionalf Bluetooth wireless technology
  • Apple AirPlay 2
  • Works with Hey Google or Alexa
  • 11.2-ch processing and pre-outs for 7.2.4 layouts
  • Supports Dirac Live Room Correction
  • AccuReflex phase-matching solution for Atmos-enabled speakers
  • SMART AV Receiver
  • HDMI Sub/Zone 2 Out for media transmission to a second display

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Written by iconian | Staff

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Sep 21, 2024 11:23 AM
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supermanrob
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Quote from Backhome77 :
I use my 9-channel AVR for 5.1.4 Atmos. I chose this configuration because I don't have room for properly placed rear surrounds, and because, to my knowledge, all of the major streaming services cap out at five base layer channels, or 5.X.X surround. The only time you get seven base layers is with Blu-Ray.

One day I might upgrade too 7.1.4 (or 7.2.4), but for now 5.1.4 sounds pretty amazing!
I agree 5.1.4 is often the optimal setup because a proper 7 base layer setup is a challenge to achieve.

The quality of your speakers and their proper placement is more crucial for optimal performance.

Just adding more speakers doesn't always mean a worthy improvement in my experience.
Not to mention the added cost to do so also.

Keep in mind if you mainly stream, it is a major drop in audio quality!
Not sure all this is would be worth it for mainly streaming.
You're not really taking advantage of it in my experience.
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Quote from 3rdbass :
Just wait for the RZ30. It will come with Dirac live and have 2 discrete subwoofers setup. It is 2 less channels if you have a additional amp to use for the RZ50, if that is a concern. I'm sure you will see the RZ30 on sale for $599.99 in no time on Adorama.
I would point out contrary to popular belief Dirac Live does not include ANY part of THEIR sub integration RC(Dirac Live Bass Control).
DL uses/relies on the AVRs bass management to correct/calculate/etc to do it.

People love to infer that it does but Dirac disagrees, their description of what DLBC offers is specifically for subwoofers after all.

Even in that belief a common inference is, it does it for one subwoofer. So for two you would need DLBC anyways.

The 3800 now includes their version of DLBC, Directional setting and it works pretty well.
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hy_tekSep 21, 2024 01:56 PM
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I have 4 ohm front speakers with 88db sensitivity. Will this drive them to normal listening levels?

The reviews for Adorama delivery have not been very good. People report boxes in which items are shipped being trashed and electronics damaged.
Last edited by hy_tek September 21, 2024 at 06:58 AM.
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3rdbassSep 21, 2024 02:59 PM
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Quote from hy_tek :
I have 4 ohm front speakers with 88db sensitivity. Will this drive them to normal listening levels?

The reviews for Adorama delivery have not been very good. People report boxes in which items are shipped being trashed and electronics damaged.
I had no issues when I got my X3800 a year ago from them. Adorama is a reputable company and would have no second thoughts of ordering from them again.
Last edited by 3rdbass September 22, 2024 at 11:18 AM.
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Quote from hy_tek :
I have 4 ohm front speakers with 88db sensitivity. Will this drive them to normal listening levels?

The reviews for Adorama delivery have not been very good. People report boxes in which items are shipped being trashed and electronics damaged.
Depends who/what you believe.
Measurements say this isn't good for 4 or 6ohm speakers.
Some owners say they don't hear any issues and are content with it.

You could buy it from GT(see link above), possibly no tax & usually authorized dealer.
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Sep 21, 2024 06:24 PM
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Will22ndSep 21, 2024 06:24 PM
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Quote from osv1 :
imho, you'll be further ahead by comparing features other than thx.

perhaps most importantly, i think that both of those receivers are limited to only one sub signal out(split into two connectors), so if you want to run multiple independent subs you'll have to spend more to do it, and jump thru hoops to make it work.

that's a pretty big drawback for such pricey gear, and since there isn't any competition the industry is having a field day defining brand differences by crippling different feature sets.

be sure and do your comparison homework.
Wait so I can't connect 2 subs to this receiver?
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Quote from Will22nd :
Wait so I can't connect 2 subs to this receiver?
Yes you can but they share the same sub signal.

How big a deal that is depends on many factors.

It will be interesting to see what DLBC does in this scenario.

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msa4033Sep 21, 2024 08:07 PM
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Quote from supermanrob :
I would add this can also process 11 channels, soon will get the option to Dirac Live Bass Control.

Often tax is included with GT also.

https://www.greentoe.com/product/...91k8_sgfy4

https://www.dirac.com/online-stor...o-tx-rz50/
The RZ50 only has one discrete sub preout... I don't see how DLBC can get around this.
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shaddaiSep 21, 2024 08:11 PM
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Quote from hy_tek :
I have 4 ohm front speakers with 88db sensitivity. Will this drive them to normal listening levels?

The reviews for Adorama delivery have not been very good. People report boxes in which items are shipped being trashed and electronics damaged.
Stay away from the RZ50 unless you are using it in a small bedrooom. If this is for your main home theater setup, the RZ50 will create a "dull lifeless" sound as reported by other users who have 4 ohm speakers.
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shaddaiSep 21, 2024 08:17 PM
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Quote from supermanrob :
I would point out contrary to popular belief Dirac Live does not include ANY part of THEIR sub integration RC(Dirac Live Bass Control).
DL uses/relies on the AVRs bass management to correct/calculate/etc to do it.

People love to infer that it does but Dirac disagrees, their description of what DLBC offers is specifically for subwoofers after all.

Even in that belief a common inference is, it does it for one subwoofer. So for two you would need DLBC anyways.

The 3800 now includes their version of DLBC, Directional setting and it works pretty well.
Wrong! Dirac Live gives you DLBM in all AVR brands other than the Voxx ones from 2021 (Onkyo, Pioneer, Integra). Please stop lumping a Voxx 2021 limitation into other brands. It's not right!

See the pic below from a Denon 3800 that only has Dirac Live (no DLBC) but still has Bass Management (highlighted by yellow box). There is no RZ50 user who can show the same pic and I highly doubt it will be enabled via firmware!
Last edited by shaddai September 21, 2024 at 01:21 PM.
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Quote from supermanrob :
I would point out contrary to popular belief Dirac Live does not include ANY part of THEIR sub integration RC(Dirac Live Bass Control).
DL uses/relies on the AVRs bass management to correct/calculate/etc to do it.

People love to infer that it does but Dirac disagrees, their description of what DLBC offers is specifically for subwoofers after all.

Even in that belief a common inference is, it does it for one subwoofer. So for two you would need DLBC anyways.

The 3800 now includes their version of DLBC, Directional setting and it works pretty well.
I never said that DLBC comes with RZ30. I just said it has Dirac live so not sure what your comment is about. The 2 discrete subwoofers is a different feature that I pointed out since the RZ50 doesn't have it. I never insinuated since it has that feature it include DLBC. It can be added though on the RZ30 just like Denon 3800h which you have to buy the whole suite to get that capability.
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AdamE8805Sep 21, 2024 09:24 PM
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Quote from shaddai :
Wrong! Dirac Live gives you DLBM in all AVR brands other than the Voxx ones from 2021 (Onkyo, Pioneer, Integra). Please stop lumping a Voxx 2021 limitation into other brands. It's not right!

See the pic below from a Denon 3800 that only has Dirac Live (no DLBC) but still has Bass Management (highlighted by yellow box). There is no RZ50 user who can show the same pic and I highly doubt it will be enabled via firmware!
It is on Diracs website that it is being added to this receiver. You are wrong. Maybe a quick google search would save you from spreading misinformation. Plus, not all receivers include diracs bass control. Unless they are super expensive, you have to buy it separately.
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Quote from msa4033 :
The RZ50 only has one discrete sub preout... I don't see how DLBC can get around this.
Yes it will be interesting on what happens with the RZ50!

It will also be interesting with the RZ30 on whether they believe DL now offers DLBC for two subs or do they get DLBC! 🤔
The plot thickens! 🫣
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Quote from shaddai :
Wrong! Dirac Live gives you DLBM in all AVR brands other than the Voxx ones from 2021 (Onkyo, Pioneer, Integra). Please stop lumping a Voxx 2021 limitation into other brands. It's not right!

See the pic below from a Denon 3800 that only has Dirac Live (no DLBC) but still has Bass Management (highlighted by yellow box). There is no RZ50 user who can show the same pic and I highly doubt it will be enabled via firmware!
Geez…Mr. conspiracy theory over here!
DLBM is not part of DLBC, Dirac tells you that.
AGAIN if that's incorrect please provide proof! 🙄

The reason the 3800 has DLBM and the RZ50 doesn't is because the 3800 has the option for DLBC and the RZ50 does/did) not….. Dirac explains this also!!!
AGAIN if Dirac is incorrect please show us proof!! 🙄

Like your other conspiracy theories that this wasn't capable of DLBC because of some "bug" or it was a "hardware" issue you will be wrong AGAIN! 🙄
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LovelyShape3085Sep 21, 2024 10:13 PM
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Love the convo on here! I'm looking at upgrading from an older 5.1 setup which is why I same across this. So from what I'm hearing here, it's more preferable to go 5.1.4 as opposed to 7.1.2? In the real world does having 4 height speakers sound better than only two heights with four rears? I have a small corner basement setup and was wondering what the ideal distance between the height speakers would be? What height speakers would you recommend in the situation of limited space? Thanks!
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