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Feb 6, 2025
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jockovonred
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Quote from ripplinghurst :
I have a Shield and thinking of moving to Apple tv. Is it possible and smooth to use VPN with Apple? Will it work for apps like Netflix and Youtube?

Can you stream videos from an Android phone to AppleTv?

I hate that my shield gets unresponsive on wake up sometimes, I hate that the Paramount plus app needs a stop and restart everytime, I hate that the X app needs a login every time and finally the remote: I hit the netflix button way too many times. Wish I could disable that hard coded button or use it for something else.
Windscribe VPN is now supported on Apple, though I've not used it yet. It's supposed to work with iPad and AppleTV.

Streaming to AppleTV requires Airplay on iPad, iPhone, Mac devices. Android uses Google to cast. There may be a 3rd party app you could try and use, but it'd be YMMV.

For wake/unresponsive, check how many apps installed, and how much space is used. Clear some space, clear the cache of the Shield and unused apps. There's other things too that could be the cause for this but it's usually related to space and apps installed.

The problem is the Paramount app, not the Shield. Could be related to a space issue also.

The X app? For the old twitter network? Not sure about that app as I don't use it.

To remap the Netflix button, looks for "Buttons Remapper" app.
A quick search brings this as an example: https://www.reddit.com/r/ShieldAn...on_remote/
Feb 6, 2025
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JustAnotherUserHere
Feb 6, 2025
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Quote from flangomango :
Nvidia Shield TV
Release date NA: May 28, 2015

And it's still getting updates!

Name another 10 year old device still getting modern software updates?
I own both the 2015 and the 2017 models since they debuted and used to be a huge fan of the Shield.

But as time has passed by and my use of Plex has diminished, I find myself preferring my AppleTV 4K 2021 over my Shield's.

A lot of that has to do with how spammy the Shield's UI has become.

In the beginning, it was simple and visually appealing.

Now it is cluttered with ads and suggestions. Some of them can be disabled but others are forced to be there whether you like it or not.

At least with the AppleTV the UI is simple with zero ads being forced on you.

Let's not forget about the remotes.

The Shield 2015 remote sucked. The Shield 2017 is almost perfect with the only issue being the Netflix button being too easy to accidentally trigger.

On the AppleTV side, the original Siri Remote sucked with the stupid trackpad navigation. But the current Gen2/3 Siri Remote is perfect.

The other thing that has started to annoy me with the Shield is the tug-of-war I have to play between it, my AppleTV, and my TV. Every time I go to wake up my TV using my AppleTV remote to also wake up my AppleTV, the Shield wants to take priority and forces my TV to switch from the AppleTV input to the Shield's input.

Honestly, the only real gripe I have with the AppleTV is the Keyboard UI layout sucks.
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JTEEE
Feb 6, 2025
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Quote from StreetJedi :
I don't get all the frustration with nvidia pro.

Yea, it crashes occasionally but everything does. I've been using it for 5y and have few complaints.

I use mine for PLEX. It finds my NAS no problem and plays virtually any file I throw at it, including with lossless atmos. And what else can upscale like it.

I do need another device though. $50 for an Onn 4k Pro is very tempting.
Anything negative said about it will be downvoted by fanboys, but I have had many problems with the shield over the last 4 years. If you check out the Nvidia forums, so have others.

Not saying the problems weren't solvable, but it sure wasn't seamless. You eventually learn the quirks.

Tip for anyone that gets one:
Don't update it immediately each time a new update gets released. Wait a bit then look at the forums to see if any major issue occurred.
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jockovonred
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Quote from aparoche :
Kodi is crap. I've moved on to Stremio + Torrentio + RealDebrid and it runs fine on the Onn 4K Pro.
Not familiar with those options. Does that setup also allow for sports watching?

Does Amazon Cube/FireTV (ATV) or AppleTV allows for Kodi use?
I know it was possible years ago with ATV, but it seems Amazon has been removing features and abilities to sideload or run different launchers.
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RavenSEAL
Feb 6, 2025
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Quote from flangomango :
Incremental upgrades. To make you buy it 4 times.

4 x $140 = $560

Meanwhile, my 2015 Shield TV came out with overpowered hardware for the time and it still outperforms the newest Apple TV.

1 x $200 = $200
No? Lol. The hardware inside the Apple TV 4K is literally the same hardware as modern iPhones. All far better than the 10 year old NVIDIA SOC in the shield.
Last edited by RavenSEAL February 5, 2025 at 10:35 PM.
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FierceDeityLink
Feb 6, 2025
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Quote from JustAnotherUserHere :
I own both the 2015 and the 2017 models since they debuted and used to be a huge fan of the Shield.

But as time has passed by and my use of Plex has diminished, I find myself preferring my AppleTV 4K 2021 over my Shield's.

A lot of that has to do with how spammy the Shield's UI has become.

In the beginning, it was simple and visually appealing.

Now it is cluttered with ads and suggestions. Some of them can be disabled but others are forced to be there whether you like it or not.

At least with the AppleTV the UI is simple with zero ads being forced on you.
I changed to Projectivy Launcher at first when Google started putting ads on the homescreen, but Dispatch Launcher came out and it has Plex integration that works p well. I'm still using two of the 2017 Shields.
Feb 6, 2025
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aparoche
Feb 6, 2025
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Quote from JustAnotherUserHere :
I own both the 2015 and the 2017 models since they debuted and used to be a huge fan of the Shield.

But as time has passed by and my use of Plex has diminished, I find myself preferring my AppleTV 4K 2021 over my Shield's.

A lot of that has to do with how spammy the Shield's UI has become.

In the beginning, it was simple and visually appealing.

Now it is cluttered with ads and suggestions. Some of them can be disabled but others are forced to be there whether you like it or not.

At least with the AppleTV the UI is simple with zero ads being forced on you.

Let's not forget about the remotes.

The Shield 2015 remote sucked. The Shield 2017 is almost perfect with the only issue being the Netflix button being too easy to accidentally trigger.

On the AppleTV side, the original Siri Remote sucked with the stupid trackpad navigation. But the current Gen2/3 Siri Remote is perfect.

The other thing that has started to annoy me with the Shield is the tug-of-war I have to play between it, my AppleTV, and my TV. Every time I go to wake up my TV using my AppleTV remote to also wake up my AppleTV, the Shield wants to take priority and forces my TV to switch from the AppleTV input to the Shield's input.

Honestly, the only real gripe I have with the AppleTV is the Keyboard UI layout sucks.
You are correct about the Shield's (Google OS) main screen spam, which is why you download one app (Projectivy) and get rid of all the crap you don't want. The home screens on my Shield Pro and Onn 4K Pro boxes are literally just a single row of apps that I frequently use along with the settings button in the upper-right corner and a WiFi symbol showing that the device is connected to the Internet. The bloat and ads definitely suck on Google OS, but you can easily get rid of it all and choose exactly what you want to be displayed on your Home Screen.
Last edited by aparoche February 5, 2025 at 11:51 PM.

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Quote from FierceDeityLink :
I changed to Projectivy Launcher at first when Google started putting ads on the homescreen, but Dispatch Launcher came out and it has Plex integration that works p well. I'm still using two of the 2017 Shields.
Projectivy Launcher for the win!
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Quote from jockovonred :
Not familiar with those options. Does that setup also allow for sports watching?

Does Amazon Cube/FireTV (ATV) or AppleTV allows for Kodi use?
I know it was possible years ago with ATV, but it seems Amazon has been removing features and abilities to sideload or run different launchers.
Yes, I watch sports, UFC, WWE, movies, shows, live channels, etc. on Stremio, but Kodi lets you do the same. I switched from Kodi to Stremio because I like the interface more and it is faster to me than Kodi. I also have much better luck with Stremio's live channels. Also, you can just set up a Stremio account, add all of your Addons once (like Torrentio, which gives access to show and movie streams, etc.) and whichever device you install Stremio on in the future, those Addons stay when you login to your account. RealDebrid is a paid addon that gives you access to much faster streaming potential and sources. It's around $17 bucks for 180 days. So $34 bucks a year for unlimited fast streaming and sources is okay by me.

https://real-debrid.com/premium

You can run Kodi on basically any Android OS devices (Shield, Amazon Fire Stick, Onn, etc.) and Apple TV. Stremio will run on Android OS and on MacOS, but not on Apple TV.
Last edited by aparoche February 6, 2025 at 12:08 AM.
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ripplinghurst
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Quote from jockovonred :
Windscribe VPN is now supported on Apple, though I've not used it yet. It's supposed to work with iPad and AppleTV.

Streaming to AppleTV requires Airplay on iPad, iPhone, Mac devices. Android uses Google to cast. There may be a 3rd party app you could try and use, but it'd be YMMV.

For wake/unresponsive, check how many apps installed, and how much space is used. Clear some space, clear the cache of the Shield and unused apps. There's other things too that could be the cause for this but it's usually related to space and apps installed.

The problem is the Paramount app, not the Shield. Could be related to a space issue also.

The X app? For the old twitter network? Not sure about that app as I don't use it.

To remap the Netflix button, looks for "Buttons Remapper" app.
A quick search brings this as an example: https://www.reddit.com/r/ShieldAn...on_remote/
Yes, there's a new official app for X, the old Twitter stuff. Just videos. It's very entertaining (depending on your feed), but not polished. Maybe, one day, it will beat Youtube in some areas (short clips). But for breaking news stuff from independent people (eg, fires in LA), it beats Youtube (as X does)

I would think then if that's a memory issue, Nvidia should issue an update ASAP. Can't believe it is such a simple problem.

And thank you for the hint on the remapping the Nerflix button. I'll look into that.

Yeah, if I can't stream home videos from Android to Apple Tv, Apple Tv is not an option.
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Justyourdad
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Who would buy this , yikes 😬
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Quote from fruity :
Ahhh... This old debate, yet again.

If you're an Android person and want Chromecasting capability, or you want lossless audio, buy a Shield. It's still the highest-end Android client.

If you're an Apple person, or don't need lossless audio, buy an Apple TV.
I went in on both: AppleTV 4Ks for streaming at home and Nvidia Shield for connecting my 4TB SSD of pirated content to watch locally when working on my ship without internet access. Shield is a champ for that and emulating N64 games lol.
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GlossyAussie
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Quote from HelloClemFandango :
Can I install Deepseek on this?❤️🇨🇳
Deepseek is trash. Take this from someone in AI engineering classes.
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Can you get the Baton Rouge channels on this?
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Quote from flangomango :
Nvidia Shield TV
Release date NA: May 28, 2015

And it's still getting updates!

Name another 10 year old device still getting modern software updates?
isn't this the 2019 revision though, lets play fairly
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