expiredswansong119 posted Mar 17, 2025 06:25 PM
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expiredswansong119 posted Mar 17, 2025 06:25 PM
26TB Seagate External USB 3.0 Desktop Hard Drive
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Edit: ST26000DM000 mfg date 02/2025. Seagate website indicates the serial # on the drive is a Barracuda w/ 1yr warranty. Oh well, looks like the days of discount exos are gone, and I'll be returning this one.
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Google search shows Exos. Search on Seagate with serial# shows IronWolf NAS
Back to the relevant topic, I'm also seeing the DM in the part number to indicate a Barracuda drive.
To Seagate's credit, the 1-year warranty only applies if you live in the USA. In Europe, the exact same external comes with a 3-year warranty I believe. I guess Europe has better consumer rights and protections, shame, really. Regardless, Seagate seems confident that the drive will last 3 years, so that's a good thing, I guess.
In my opinion, Best Buy is playing us all by letting the item sell out, waiting a few days, and then making it available again. They seem to be creating a FOMO rush; act quickly and buy now is a common underhanded seller tactic. Since the retail price for these 26TB drives is $350, I'm not in any rush to purchase. Sorry, Best Buy.
WD is a pirate organization holding people hostage with their offensive and egregious prices (check their stock price and news on earnings).
As much as I loath WD, it's a hard NFW on buying seagate for me.
edit: reddit thread has people chiming in they're getting Barracuda's as well.
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150TB workload vs 550TB workload on EXOs
2400 hours or 100 days vs 24/7 ,365 a year on time for Exos
Make your move i dare you
I like my data not being corrupted
Barracuda is great for desktop use but going up this size no one and i mean no one should be using a 24TB+ hard drive without parity.
This is ridiculous to offer a drive to a consumer which even most people nowadays are using a NAS or some sort of software, even windows 10-11 offers storage spaces running disks 24/7 or in raid.
With windows storage spaces , You can do raid 5 or raid 1 mirror, even if you cannot do a LAN over 2.5Gbps, you can easily run 3 of these in raid 5 and one parity disk
If anyone is interested going this route without a NAS you could probably get easily 600MB/s on 3 of these disks with 1 parity on your local gaming pc
I know there is not alot of people out there running over 2.5Gbps networks so if you want to go this route it would only require 3 slots in your case
Windows would report 47.2937TB
WD is a pirate organization holding people hostage with their offensive and egregious prices (check their stock price and news on earnings).
As much as I loath WD, it's a hard NFW on buying seagate for me.
Seagate could take identical internal HDDs and make one into a external HDD product that sells for $350 offering a 1 year warranty, and make another into a product that sells for $450 offering a 2 year warranty, and the increased profit margin of the second product will support the increased warranty claims associated with the longer period of coverage.
Same applies to why a WD external may have a higher retail price and offer a 2 year warranty over Seagate's 1 year. It's not as simple to say "Seagate knows the drive will only last approximately one year".
It's possible that Seagate had an oversupply of EXOS drives at one time and approached these big box stores such as Best Buy/B&H Photo to negotiate a large volume deal, meaning they were asking the stores to commit to buying a certain number of units for an external drive product that could be sold there, the big box stores said they could pay $X/unit, which was lower than Seagate was wanting.
Seagate crunches the numbers and determines that they can sell Best Buy/B&H Photo at that rate they asked for, all they need to do is reduce their warranty period from 3 years to 1 year to accommodate that price point. So you end up with an EXOS drive (in the case of those lucky ones who got the original batches) that arguably has an expected life of at least 3+ years, in a lower priced product, with a lower warranty period in place. It's not the same as Seagate admitting the drives are only expected to last 1 year. It's just how business works sometimes.
They also may have determined the warranty structure on this particular product knowing that once they ran out the surplus of EXOS drives, they will transition to newly produced Barracudas which inherently are cheaper to manufacture and will, by design, have shorter lifespans on average.
150TB workload vs 550TB workload on EXOs
2400 hours or 100 days vs 24/7 ,365 a year on time for Exos
Make your move i dare you
I like my data not being corrupted
Barracuda is great for desktop use but going up this size no one and i mean no one should be using a 24TB+ hard drive without parity.
If the hard drive containing that 'precious' data crashes, you can simply procure such tripe quickly and easily—often at better compression rates and quality. The 'backups' are already available for such data, so backing them up again seems quite absurd and a huge waste of time and resources, in my opinion.
Overall, you shouldn't get weirdly attached to your video media. Externals like these work perfectly for my simple Plex Media Server setup. They spin up/power on when I need them and power down/sleep when not in use. However, if I were an advanced user streaming to multiple people 24/7, I'd definitely go with top-of-the-line enterprise NAS drives of course.
If the hard drive containing that 'precious' data crashes, you can simply procure such tripe quickly and easily—often at better compression rates and quality. The 'backups' are already available for such data, so backing them up again seems quite absurd and a huge waste of time and resources, in my opinion.
Overall, you shouldn't get weirdly attached to your video media. Externals like these work perfectly for my simple Plex Media Server setup. They spin up/power on when I need them and power down/sleep when not in use. However, if I were an advanced user streaming to multiple people 24/7, I'd definitely go with top-of-the-line enterprise NAS drives of course.
Also who has the time to do this? This is why parity and raid with parity exists.
I can tell you never used true nas or unraid
You are doing it wrong , even a simple synology box would be a better setup than yours.
Also who has the time to do this? This is why parity and raid with parity exists.
I can tell you never used true nas or unraid
You are doing it wrong , even a simple synology box would be a better setup than yours.
In my opinion, spending a fortune backing up easily obtainable video data via expensive RAID and NAS server setups like Synology is unnecessary and a waste of money. A cheap, refurbished Dell enterprise-grade machine with a few externals attached should be more than adequate for most people's Plex Media Server needs.
Of course, if you want to be streaming 24/7, you'll need something more durable, like enterprise-grade NAS drives. The key is not becoming overly attached to your video collection and realizing that it's all easily retrievable—especially if you have the media managers and downloaders set up to handle it.
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In my opinion, spending a fortune backing up easily obtainable video data via expensive RAID and NAS server setups like Synology is unnecessary and a waste of money. A cheap, refurbished Dell enterprise-grade machine with a few externals attached should be more than adequate for most people's Plex Media Server needs.
Of course, if you want to be streaming 24/7, you'll need something more durable, like enterprise-grade NAS drives. The key is not becoming overly attached to your video collection and realizing that it's all easily retrievable—especially if you have the media managers and downloaders set up to handle it.
My main concern is the ridiculously high cost of the time and the manpower associated with replacing said data if I didn't understand the absurdly low cost of simplifying things by maintaining local redundancy.
Your system where you don't have to track down the data in the event of a HDD failure is frankly unique and not applicable to the majority of the people who might be concerned about the time wasted as a result of a 26TB HDD failing.
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