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Model: Refurbished Gateway GWTN141-10BL 14.1" FHD i5-1135G7 2.4GHz Intel Iris Xe Graphics 16GB RAM 512GB SSD Win 10 Home Blue
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Not going to quote but people are mixing up terms quite a bit (like SATA with SSD).
SSD = solid state disk. Just means the drive uses "flash" memory instead of the older, slower, spinning magnetic platters (hard disk drive). Thankfully nowadays these are used in most computers and pretty much no one should be running a computer off a hard disk drive.
M.2 = This is a "form factor," i.e. the slot that the SSDs plug into in most modern laptops. Note m.2 drives come in different lengths, with the "2280" size being most common.
It gets confusing because there are M.2 drives that use the SATA interface and drives that use NVME interface. And then on computers, there are M.2 "slots" that only support SATA, there are "slots" that only support NVME (rare), and "slots" (most) that support both. Thus it is sometimes possible for a drive to physically fit but not function.
The NVME interface has more bandwidth than the SATA interface (i.e. the drive talks to the computer through a "fatter" pipe) so in theory is better, but only if the drives in question are fast enough to fill up the "pipe" (i.e. the pipe doesn't become a bottleneck). NVME drives will usually "test" as being faster using performance tests but often there is no noticeable difference to the user between an SATA SSD and an NVME SSD in "everyday" computing tasks.
Maybe someone can verify what I think somebody tried to share, which is that this laptop has two m.2 slots, but neither one supports NVME drives. Is this the case?
I have a dell inspiron i7, better screen most likely, and better build quality on order for $550 or so, but this is really, really cheap. I never move my laptop so we'll see if this one fits the bill.
But i think we agree that the specs and performance for the price aren't the problem....
On the fence vs. Target new HP for $276 (HP 14" Laptop with Windows Home in S mode - Intel Core i3 11th Gen Processor - 4GB RAM Memory - 128GB SSD Storage - Silver (14-dq2031tg)).
I can't decide...this for $338 or the Target deal for $276 ($62 diff). Bought and can return to Walmart after running through its paces i guess.
Dim 200 nits IPS display. Soldered RAM with slow timings. There is a second M.2 2280 SATA slot inside. It runs very quiet 31 dB with up to 9 hour battery life and low power consumption. Xe 80EU graphics are decent, equal to GT 1030 or Vega 7.
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I think the models with the 11th gen processors (this one) are supposed to be able to charge over USB C up to 45 watts. Can't test this, but there were some comments about it on $399 deal
Evo platform 11th gen, yes, but to be an Evo model you also need to have thunderbolt.
But i think we agree that the specs and performance for the price aren't the problem....
On the fence vs. Target new HP for $276 (HP 14" Laptop with Windows Home in S mode - Intel Core i3 11th Gen Processor - 4GB RAM Memory - 128GB SSD Storage - Silver (14-dq2031tg)).
I can't decide...this for $338 or the Target deal for $276 ($62 diff). Bought and can return to Walmart after running through its paces i guess.
I would not recommend running Windows 10 on 4GB RAM and 128GB storage. It will be extremely slow and 128GB will fill up fast.
I would not recommend running Windows 10 on 4GB RAM and 128GB storage. It will be extremely slow and 128GB will fill up fast.
Good point...i have 16GB lying around that i was going to swap out for the Target lappy. Can't run a PC with the lazy way I open dozens of tabs, so 16GB is the min for me... my main concern is durability/reliability. At this price point, i figure there's lots of compromises; a 128GB storage is no problem because i have usb hard drives up the wazoo. this is more a backup / kid laptop than anything. The target laptop I was referencing was a BF special available at Target for local pickup only (https://slickdeals.net/f/15423058-hp-14-laptop-with-windows-10-home-in-s-mode-intel-core-i3-11th-gen-processor-4gb-ram-memory-128gb-ssd-storage-silver-14-dq2031tg-target-269-99?src=SiteSearchV2Algo1)...have to drive 30 min to get mine. Would rather keep this one over the lesser powered HP, but being Gateway and potentially iffy reliability makes me wonder if it's worth it.
Evo platform 11th gen, yes, but to be an Evo model you also need to have thunderbolt.
I'm not talking about the Evo spec but rather the fact there are 2 variants of this exact laptop and the 11th gen processor variant supposedly supports charging through USB C, where the 10th gen processor variant doesn't.
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SSD = solid state disk. Just means the drive uses "flash" memory instead of the older, slower, spinning magnetic platters (hard disk drive). Thankfully nowadays these are used in most computers and pretty much no one should be running a computer off a hard disk drive.
M.2 = This is a "form factor," i.e. the slot that the SSDs plug into in most modern laptops. Note m.2 drives come in different lengths, with the "2280" size being most common.
It gets confusing because there are M.2 drives that use the SATA interface and drives that use NVME interface. And then on computers, there are M.2 "slots" that only support SATA, there are "slots" that only support NVME (rare), and "slots" (most) that support both. Thus it is sometimes possible for a drive to physically fit but not function.
The NVME interface has more bandwidth than the SATA interface (i.e. the drive talks to the computer through a "fatter" pipe) so in theory is better, but only if the drives in question are fast enough to fill up the "pipe" (i.e. the pipe doesn't become a bottleneck). NVME drives will usually "test" as being faster using performance tests but often there is no noticeable difference to the user between an SATA SSD and an NVME SSD in "everyday" computing tasks.
Maybe someone can verify what I think somebody tried to share, which is that this laptop has two m.2 slots, but neither one supports NVME drives. Is this the case?
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This vid review recommends getting into the bios to up the performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YuJso3
But i think we agree that the specs and performance for the price aren't the problem....
On the fence vs. Target new HP for $276 (HP 14" Laptop with Windows Home in S mode - Intel Core i3 11th Gen Processor - 4GB RAM Memory - 128GB SSD Storage - Silver (14-dq2031tg)).
I can't decide...this for $338 or the Target deal for $276 ($62 diff). Bought and can return to Walmart after running through its paces i guess.
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Dim 200 nits IPS display. Soldered RAM with slow timings. There is a second M.2 2280 SATA slot inside. It runs very quiet 31 dB with up to 9 hour battery life and low power consumption. Xe 80EU graphics are decent, equal to GT 1030 or Vega 7.
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This vid review recommends getting into the bios to up the performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YuJso3
But i think we agree that the specs and performance for the price aren't the problem....
On the fence vs. Target new HP for $276 (HP 14" Laptop with Windows Home in S mode - Intel Core i3 11th Gen Processor - 4GB RAM Memory - 128GB SSD Storage - Silver (14-dq2031tg)).
I can't decide...this for $338 or the Target deal for $276 ($62 diff). Bought and can return to Walmart after running through its paces i guess.
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