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If the internet is out it will work as regular switches. They will have a blinking red wifi sign to show you the internet is down, but they will work normally. If I'm not wrong, they will keep the present state when the power cycle, or maybe off, I had some power outages and didn't have to walk around the house turning them off, but I'm not sure if the lights that was on remained on. But it will not wake you up in the middle of the night in case of outage.
Tp-Link is staying in business as far as I've read. Matter compliant devices should come out by the end of the year. I don't think they've announced if they're going to release their new products under Kasa or Tapo branding.
Just a side note that my newer Asus Wifi 6 Mesh Router will not work with these plugs no how no way. I've tried a ton of settings to get them to work but for whatever reason they just can't see the main Wifi network (but they see the guest network, go figure).
I use them for all sorts of things. Lamps, a bottle warmer, sound machines, and to reboot my modem, router, and cameras.
I was interested in using these to reboot my modem as well, but I assumed that once the modem is off and internet is disconnected that you couldn't turn the smart plug back on
In theory you don't have to. Devices that support only 2.4G will only see the 2.4G variant of that SSID. Also some of these new routers don't allow control of individual bands in any way.
Love these for Christmas lights/decorations but, for the other 11 months of the year, I can't find many things in the house that come on as soon as you plug them in.
I have one to turn on my espresso machine when I wake up. Gives it a little extra time to heat up.
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I was interested in using these to reboot my modem as well, but I assumed that once the modem is off and internet is disconnected that you couldn't turn the smart plug back on
Maybe not on-demand, but if the smart plug is already scheduled to reboot the modem weekly on Sunday nights at 3:30am, the plug will store this schedule, even when it has lost connectivity to the network.
Most of today's routers will have a 2.4ghz radio but I guessing that newer routers have it off by default.
Many devices, specifically IoT devices, still require the 2.4ghz network and it's a good thing to have on. If your router separates the radios into networks (SSID's = HomeInternet2.4 and HomeInternet5) then you'll have to manually set your devices to the proper network. If your device handles it for you (SSID = HomeInternet) then you don't have to worry about it at all.
I will say, if you have the ability to create a separate IoT wireless network and have it run on only a 2.4ghz radio that's preferable (with proper firewall rules and network isolation).
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Most of today's routers will have a 2.4ghz radio but I guessing that newer routers have it off by default.
Many devices, specifically IoT devices, still require the 2.4ghz network and it's a good thing to have on. If your router separates the radios into networks (SSID's = HomeInternet2.4 and HomeInternet5) then you'll have to manually set your devices to the proper network. If your device handles it for you (SSID = HomeInternet) then you don't have to worry about it at all.
I will say, if you have the ability to create a separate IoT wireless network and have it run on only a 2.4ghz radio that's preferable (with proper firewall rules and network isolation).
Obviously not familiar with your router, but one solution that has worked in the past for me was to set up the router's "Guest Network" which was typically only 2.4. Worth a try to see if they will connect to that once set up.
I use Alexa mostly. But you can do that as well. I use them in conjunction with 2 keep connect units, which are awesome, btw. But they don't use Alexa, so I combine them with these for manual resets.
Going to have to check that out...I have about 35 kasa devices and several brand new in the box....I have a problem I think
Definitely good to note the amperage of the device(s) you're plugging into these - some of mine I've purchased are only the 10amp variety (which is fine for lights and such, and I shy away from space heaters and higher-amp devices).
As far as uses, personally I use them for: Humidifiers, Air Fresheners, Holidays Lights (Xmas, Halloween, etc.), Recirculating pump on our house, cellphone chargers (off at 99%, on at 80%), Media room cabinet vent fan (on when receiver is on), lamps, outside lighting (backyard landscape lights), whole-house audio amplifiers, air purifiers.
FWIW, I have these connected to Home Assistant instance to make them a little smarter (ie. turn on humidifier if the heat's running and humidity < 40%, or cell phone chargers based on device battery).
The subwoofer is a good one I hadn't thought of mentioned earlier, though I'm not sure the power draw of a woofer that idle vs. the plug itself. Also like the battery charger to not just keep them charging.
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I use them for Christmas lights but can't think of anything else to use them on. I only use for lights once a year lol
Don't forget these also monitor energy flowing through them so you can use a routine to notify you when the electricity flowing drops or spikes. For example, use this on your laundry dryer and be notified once your laundry is finished drying.
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I have one integrated with a smart switch - when headed downstairs first thing in the AM, I turn on first floor hallway lights with a smart switch from upstairs, which triggers a Home Assistant automation to turn on a switched lamp plugged in to one of these in our living room. Downside is that if anyone switches the light off manually, automation killed.
But yeah I have a pile of these and they sit in a drawer until this time of year for holiday window "candles".
Smart switches > smart plugs > smart bulbs
If you have an Airbnb, these are great to turn off the fridge when no one is staying there etc saves energy and environmentally friendly.
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The newer slim models *do* work with my network so I've moved over to them. They are the same price and about a third smaller:
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Love these for Christmas lights/decorations but, for the other 11 months of the year, I can't find many things in the house that come on as soon as you plug them in.
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Many devices, specifically IoT devices, still require the 2.4ghz network and it's a good thing to have on. If your router separates the radios into networks (SSID's = HomeInternet2.4 and HomeInternet5) then you'll have to manually set your devices to the proper network. If your device handles it for you (SSID = HomeInternet) then you don't have to worry about it at all.
I will say, if you have the ability to create a separate IoT wireless network and have it run on only a 2.4ghz radio that's preferable (with proper firewall rules and network isolation).
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They blend the 2.4ghz and 5ghz bands together. Google determines what items connect to what band automatically.
Perhaps doing some research before commenting will help you next time.
Many devices, specifically IoT devices, still require the 2.4ghz network and it's a good thing to have on. If your router separates the radios into networks (SSID's = HomeInternet2.4 and HomeInternet5) then you'll have to manually set your devices to the proper network. If your device handles it for you (SSID = HomeInternet) then you don't have to worry about it at all.
I will say, if you have the ability to create a separate IoT wireless network and have it run on only a 2.4ghz radio that's preferable (with proper firewall rules and network isolation).
As far as uses, personally I use them for: Humidifiers, Air Fresheners, Holidays Lights (Xmas, Halloween, etc.), Recirculating pump on our house, cellphone chargers (off at 99%, on at 80%), Media room cabinet vent fan (on when receiver is on), lamps, outside lighting (backyard landscape lights), whole-house audio amplifiers, air purifiers.
FWIW, I have these connected to Home Assistant instance to make them a little smarter (ie. turn on humidifier if the heat's running and humidity < 40%, or cell phone chargers based on device battery).
The subwoofer is a good one I hadn't thought of mentioned earlier, though I'm not sure the power draw of a woofer that idle vs. the plug itself. Also like the battery charger to not just keep them charging.
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But yeah I have a pile of these and they sit in a drawer until this time of year for holiday window "candles".
Smart switches > smart plugs > smart bulbs
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