AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 8-Core 3.4GHz AM4 Processor + Company of Heroes 3 Game Bundle

Luigis3rdcousin

Feb 2, 2023 7:07 AM

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Luigis3rdcousinFeb 2, 2023 7:07 AM

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Wish I could get this :/

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Luigis3rdcousin

Feb 2, 2023 7:14 AM

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Luigis3rdcousinFeb 2, 2023 7:14 AM

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This is a nice chip. It's 65w. The 5800x will run hotter than this. This will be easier to cool

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HansGruber

Feb 2, 2023 7:43 AM

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HansGruberFeb 2, 2023 7:43 AM

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I think the strike price on this is $130-140. I know a lot of people would disagree. The problem is the Zen 4 CPU's are getting the 3D v-cache in a little more than a week. That means the pricing pressure on the 5800x3D CPU will be headed down as well. AMD is masterful at selling old stuff. At $150, I think they get a lot of takers.

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Cheapskate27

Feb 2, 2023 8:12 AM

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Cheapskate27Feb 2, 2023 8:12 AM

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Anyone have a good motherboard recommendation as a pair to this? Thinking about a gaming system, but looking to keep it a budget build. I'd like to eventually upgrade to a newer full sized GPU, but planning to put a compact ASUS GTX 1660 card that I own in it for now.

Disclaimer: I'm pretty technically oriented (both hardware and software) and have experience upgrading PCs, but this would be my first PC build from scratch.

Last edited by Cheapskate27 February 2, 2023 at 12:16 AM.

dydlee

Feb 2, 2023 12:37 PM

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Quote from HansGruber

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I think the strike price on this is $130-140. I know a lot of people would disagree. The problem is the Zen 4 CPU's are getting the 3D v-cache in a little more than a week. That means the pricing pressure on the 5800x3D CPU will be headed down as well. AMD is masterful at selling old stuff. At $150, I think they get a lot of takers.

5800x3D is on a different platform, different market segment. It's been in and out of stock at $330. I think at half the price, the 5700x buyer is not the same consumer as an X3D chip. I could be wrong, but $179 is a great value for the 8 core chip. The 5700g is probably the closest competitor for PCIe3 motherboards.

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KMan

Feb 2, 2023 1:26 PM

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KManFeb 2, 2023 1:26 PM

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Quote from HansGruber

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I think the strike price on this is $130-140. I know a lot of people would disagree. The problem is the Zen 4 CPU's are getting the 3D v-cache in a little more than a week. That means the pricing pressure on the 5800x3D CPU will be headed down as well. AMD is masterful at selling old stuff. At $150, I think they get a lot of takers.

I think it's more $140-$150 but otherwise I agree. I've been keeping an eye on this CPU and like how it's been trending gradually downward. It's the perfect combination of performance, features and power consumption for my needs. When it dips under $150 is when I'll probably get it. I'll just reuse the Spire cooler from my current 2600X. It won't miss it sitting in a box. I'd like to activate the PCIe 4.0 that my MB is capable of, but it requires a 3000 series or newer CPU for that. I can wait.

Quote from Cheapskate27

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Anyone have a good motherboard recommendation as a pair to this? Thinking about a gaming system, but looking to keep it a budget build. I'd like to eventually upgrade to a newer full sized GPU, but planning to put a compact ASUS GTX 1660 card that I own in it for now.

Disclaimer: I'm pretty technically oriented (both hardware and software) and have experience upgrading PCs, but this would be my first PC build from scratch.

You're probably best off getting a B550 MB. I think they can be found in the $100 and higher range, maybe a bit cheaper. Any of the known makers should be fine, Asus, Gigabyte, ASRock, etc., whatever's cheapest and has the features you want. And it's pretty easy to build a PC and there's plenty of online advice on it. Take a look at this to start:

https://www.tomshardware.com/best...therboards

Last edited by KMan February 2, 2023 at 05:33 AM.

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kyonu

Feb 2, 2023 2:00 PM

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Quote from dydlee

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5800x3D is on a different platform, different market segment. It's been in and out of stock at $330. I think at half the price, the 5700x buyer is not the same consumer as an X3D chip. I could be wrong, but $179 is a great value for the 8 core chip. The 5700g is probably the closest competitor for PCIe3 motherboards.

Both are on the same AM4 platform

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HansGruber

Feb 2, 2023 2:03 PM

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HansGruberFeb 2, 2023 2:03 PM

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Quote from dydlee

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5800x3D is on a different platform, different market segment. It's been in and out of stock at $330. I think at half the price, the 5700x buyer is not the same consumer as an X3D chip. I could be wrong, but $179 is a great value for the 8 core chip. The 5700g is probably the closest competitor for PCIe3 motherboards.

The 5700G sucks. That has half the cache of the 5700x. AMD APU's suck.

Frank_Nitty

Feb 2, 2023 2:37 PM

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I think MicroCenter has had these kind of prices or lesser already.

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palz

Feb 2, 2023 3:01 PM

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palzFeb 2, 2023 3:01 PM

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Quote from Cheapskate27

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Anyone have a good motherboard recommendation as a pair to this? Thinking about a gaming system, but looking to keep it a budget build. I'd like to eventually upgrade to a newer full sized GPU, but planning to put a compact ASUS GTX 1660 card that I own in it for now.

Disclaimer: I'm pretty technically oriented (both hardware and software) and have experience upgrading PCs, but this would be my first PC build from scratch.

I've built 4 desktops from scratch. Maybe this will help. https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/

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TylerJ_COE

Feb 2, 2023 3:31 PM

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TylerJ_COEFeb 2, 2023 3:31 PM

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Worth it from a 5600x? I'm thinking no.

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AaronM7851

Feb 2, 2023 6:07 PM

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AaronM7851Feb 2, 2023 6:07 PM

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Dumb question, can I keep the game when I return the product?

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Andrepartthree

Feb 2, 2023 8:39 PM

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AndrepartthreeFeb 2, 2023 8:39 PM

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Quote from AaronM7851

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Dumb question, can I keep the game when I return the product?

No sorry you can't Frown

... they have this program they have you install that checks to see if the hardware you purchased is physically installed into the PC before they let you install the game. On top of that there are some hoops they make you jump through.. I got a free game (different one) with my amd ryzen processor purchase but initially was given an error message "too many game licenses" even when I followed their instructions... which apparently means AMD thinks you personally have redeemed too many game licenses, not that they ran out of licenses for the game to give away like I originally thought. If you follow the instructions they give you, you end up emailing their support about the problem and within 24 hours (in my case, this is the case too for other people online from what I saw) they reset it and you go through the process a second time and get your free game.. probably worth it since the game sells for $60 in my opinion Smilie

though I can see how people absolutely would not want to put up with this kind of hassle.

Tom's hardware was not impressed with it

https://www.tomshardware.com/revi...cpu-review

pc gamer's reaction was also "meh"

https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-ryzen...rformance/

though I'm guessing they were reacting to the retail price and not the current $180 price you can get it at right now.

quote from the tom's hardware review

"If you're looking to upgrade an existing gaming-focused Ryzen build, the Ryzen 5 5600 or 5600X offers comparable gaming performance to the Ryzen 5 5700X. These chips are a much better value, but they aren't as fast in threaded workloads. As such, the Ryzen 7 5700X only makes sense if you're upgrading an older Ryzen build and need more performance in threaded workloads."

On the other hand right now the amd ryzen 5 5600x is selling for $166 from amazon so I can totally see why someone would just spend the $14 extra and get the ryzen 7 instead.

One last but really important thing.. I had a bad experience with a motherboard that went " huh?" when presented with my ryzen 5 processor and simply would not boot and from the bitter amazon reviews I'm seeing my experience was not an unusual one.. sadly you have motherboards that were built before the newer amd ryzen 5 and 7's came out that simply can't recognize the newer processors... I was told by several persons on PC hardware help forums it's definitely worth getting a motherboard that supports usb bios flash... you connect .. trying to go off memory I think it's the 24 pin power connector ... the one that gives power to the motherboard in any case on the power supply to the motherboard, no need to plug in any of the other power cables on the power supply, you have the cpu installed on the motherboard (only, that's all you need at that point in the pc build), you plug the usb drive you put the bios onto for the motherboard into the usb slot on the MB the instructions give you (different MB companies have different instructions for the process but it's easy to look up) , press a button close to that usb slot on the back panel of the motherboard that causes the bios to be flashed/installed onto the motherboard and then the MB recognizes the CPU without any difficulty .. so do your research on the MB and don't fall into the same trap I did Smilie

(returned my first MB, got a second one that supported usb flash bios and no problems at all with my amd ryzen 5 , 5600x install after that)

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Andrepartthree

Feb 2, 2023 8:50 PM

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AndrepartthreeFeb 2, 2023 8:50 PM

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Quote from KMan

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I think it's more $140-$150 but otherwise I agree. I've been keeping an eye on this CPU and like how it's been trending gradually downward. It's the perfect combination of performance, features and power consumption for my needs. When it dips under $150 is when I'll probably get it. I'll just reuse the Spire cooler from my current 2600X. It won't miss it sitting in a box. I'd like to activate the PCIe 4.0 that my MB is capable of, but it requires a 3000 series or newer CPU for that. I can wait.

You're probably best off getting a B550 MB. I think they can be found in the $100 and higher range, maybe a bit cheaper. Any of the known makers should be fine, Asus, Gigabyte, ASRock, etc., whatever's cheapest and has the features you want. And it's pretty easy to build a PC and there's plenty of online advice on it. Take a look at this to start:

https://www.tomshardware.com/best...therboards [tomshardware.com]

Kman made a great point too , something a dumb person like me might miss Stick Out Tongue

.. if you check the product description it says it does not come with a CPU cooler so make sure you order one too along with the processor (which I guess makes you pay more than the $14 difference I mentioned earlier unless you already have a cpu cooler around that you're confident will do a good job cooling the CPU .. otherwise a quick google search brought this up

https://www.windowscentral.com/be...en-7-5800x

though looking at the price tags for the coolers my reply was "ouch" Stick Out Tongue

... anyone have any recommendations for a cheaper cpu cooler that will do the job? (if I'm not mistaken I think Kman is talking about the spire stock cooler that came with his amd ryzen 5 2600x processor when he bought it ... but any recommendations for someone who doesn't have one of these spire coolers that won't break the bank? Smilie

)

Also .. and please bear in mind I'm not an expert on CPU coolers by any means Smilie

just posting what I'm seeing online.. I saw this amazon listing for the amd wraith coolers that I THINK (not sure but I think) are the ones that come stock with some amd ryzen CPU's

https://www.amazon.com/Stealth-Connector-Aluminum-Heatsink-3-93-Inch/dp/B07MFMFL7R/ref=sr_1_1?keywor... [amazon.com]

and one amazon reviewer said quote

" James David Drake
4.0 out of 5 stars Good to a point
Reviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on November 17, 2022
Verified Purchase
Used for a Ryzen 5 2600 for years with no issues what so ever. I upgraded to a Ryzen 7 5800x and bought another wraith just because lazy and didn't want to both clean the old wraith and apply new thermal paste. After installation my CPU temps could not be controlled with this. I'm talking 92 degrees under moderate load. I did reseat with no changes. Case open and a box fan aimed into case, still 92 degrees. I switched it out with a moderately priced cooler master and temps are now manageable at around 70 degrees under moderate load.
Pros: good for older cpus
Cons: had for newer cpus "

Luigis3rdcousin

Feb 2, 2023 9:23 PM

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Luigis3rdcousinFeb 2, 2023 9:23 PM

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Quote from Andrepartthree

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Kman made a great point too , something a dumb person like me might miss Stick Out Tongue

.. if you check the product description it says it does not come with a CPU cooler so make sure you order one too along with the processor (which I guess makes you pay more than the $14 difference I mentioned earlier unless you already have a cpu cooler around that you're confident will do a good job cooling the CPU .. otherwise a quick google search brought this up

https://www.windowscentral.com/be...en-7-5800x

though looking at the price tags for the coolers my reply was "ouch" Stick Out Tongue

... anyone have any recommendations for a cheaper cpu cooler that will do the job? (if I'm not mistaken I think Kman is talking about the spire stock cooler that came with his amd ryzen 5 2600x processor when he bought it ... but any recommendations for someone who doesn't have one of these spire coolers that won't break the bank? Smilie

)

Also .. and please bear in mind I'm not an expert on CPU coolers by any means Smilie

just posting what I'm seeing online.. I saw this amazon listing for the amd wraith coolers that I THINK (not sure but I think) are the ones that come stock with some amd ryzen CPU's

https://www.amazon.com/Stealth-Connector-Aluminum-Heatsink-3-93-Inch/dp/B07MFMFL7R/ref=sr_1_1?keywor... [amazon.com]

and one amazon reviewer said quote

" James David Drake
4.0 out of 5 stars Good to a point
Reviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on November 17, 2022
Verified Purchase
Used for a Ryzen 5 2600 for years with no issues what so ever. I upgraded to a Ryzen 7 5800x and bought another wraith just because lazy and didn't want to both clean the old wraith and apply new thermal paste. After installation my CPU temps could not be controlled with this. I'm talking 92 degrees under moderate load. I did reseat with no changes. Case open and a box fan aimed into case, still 92 degrees. I switched it out with a moderately priced cooler master and temps are now manageable at around 70 degrees under moderate load.
Pros: good for older cpus
Cons: had for newer cpus "

This is why I say the 5700x is better than the 5800x. There's a video showing on YouTube how the 5700x is easier to cool and the 5800x on similar cooling will thermal throttle down to the level and sometimes worse than the 5700x

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