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NVIDIA SHIELD Android TV Pro Streaming Media Player; 4K HDR movies, live sports, Dolby Vision-Atmos, AI-enhanced upscaling, GeForce NOW cloud gaming, Google Assistant Bui - $169.99

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Oct 11, 2023 08:16 PM
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AGpennypackerOct 11, 2023 08:16 PM
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From someone who sold his original back in 2018, I'm astonished these are still this expensive.

Unless you have very very specific needs and like to tinker, or like the nvidia geforce gaming there are better options.
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Oct 11, 2023 08:24 PM
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VSevenOct 11, 2023 08:24 PM
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Quote from bobdelt :
The Fire TV Cube may be newer, but it has inferior hardware. It has 2gb of ram (50% less), its 32bit vs 64bit, has 1/3rd the GPU performance, and you get the god awful amazon interface, which is somehow worse than googles.

The shield can also do dolbyhd atmos.

I can't imagine paying for an overpriced fire stick just because its in cube form.
It's amazing how hard you nVidia fan bois will fight for ancient overpriced hardware. You think there is a difference between 3Gb of DDR3 and 2Gb of DDR4 for streaming? How is the WiFi 6e on the Shield? How about AV1 support? Oh, doesn't have those?

You are comparing a Tegra X1+ in the Shield which is a ARM Cortex-A57 quad-core (64-bit) that is NOT using the additional A53 quad-core to a ARM Cortex-A73 quad-core @ 2.2GHz + ARM Cortex-A53 quad-core @ 2.0GHz that is in the Cube. "Inferior hardware?" You should stop talking out your ass and read more.
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Oct 11, 2023 08:55 PM
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rjsmith2007Oct 11, 2023 08:55 PM
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Quote from AGpennypacker :
From someone who sold his original back in 2018, I'm astonished these are still this expensive.

Unless you have very very specific needs and like to tinker, or like the nvidia geforce gaming there are better options.
Even used ones on ebay are going for this price. It's ridiculous. Some are marked up to $400 for some reason.
Oct 11, 2023 09:26 PM
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LawrenceT6420Oct 11, 2023 09:26 PM
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Quote from aceventurafan :
I have a shield TV on all my TVs. I've had them for years with not many issues. Basically using them to watch all the TV streaming apps and to run VLC to play content off my home server. Love the remote.
not sure why you need one on each tv when one will do just fine. I run one as a plex media server and use one nas drive to distribute content to all the client tvs. and each client tv just run plex.. why waste money?
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Oct 11, 2023 09:32 PM
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DJsDAOct 11, 2023 09:32 PM
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Quote from LikeFastCars :
Once you do the latest update to Android TV. A ton of apps aren't supported. I know nvidia doesn't care about consumers. I'm still mad about local GeForce now support being discontinued. Right now I watch Amazon prime videos and crunchyroll on my shield pro.
what do you mean by local geforce now support being discontinued? do you mean geforce now servers taken down in your area? or is there some issue with the shield and geforce now? i'd be buying a shield strickly for geforce now support.
Oct 11, 2023 09:39 PM
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aceventurafanOct 11, 2023 09:39 PM
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Quote from LawrenceT6420 :
not sure why you need one on each tv when one will do just fine. I run one as a plex media server and use one nas drive to distribute content to all the client tvs. and each client tv just run plex.. why waste money?
How am I supposed to run all my other streaming apps like Netflix, Discovery and Hulu?
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Oct 11, 2023 09:54 PM
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DeadpooleOct 11, 2023 09:54 PM
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If you set a triple c@mels watch on amazon for used warehouse nvidia shields, I've been able to get this Pro for $140 "Used - like new".

Note that this 2019 model has the exact same model number as the 2017. The only way to tell is to hook it up and see if it has the AI upscaling. Mine have all been 2019s so far. But someone could try to swap a 2017 for a 2019. So double check any used shields purporting to be 2019s/

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Oct 11, 2023 10:11 PM
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namlookOct 11, 2023 10:11 PM
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Quote from bobdelt :
I have two shields, one is a plex server and works as well as any other PC I've used to host media.
Does Shield as a Plex server work well with Plex Amp to stream music remotely away from the home network?
Last edited by namlook October 11, 2023 at 04:14 PM.
Oct 11, 2023 11:17 PM
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blackadderOct 11, 2023 11:17 PM
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Quote from piper28 :
I just recently pulled out the 2019 shield that I bought a while ago and swapped it in for the older version of the shield that I had on my main tv. Couple of thoughts.

First, my initial impressions with the ai upscaling is that it's pretty bad. I've been watching a 1080p show, and I've been noticing a bunch of static appearing in the image. Finally went and looked at the files on my computer, and can't see anywhere near the signs of it in the original. Dropped the shield to play 1080p and it basically went away. Changed the upscaling to basic, and it also went away. Now, I'll admit that the problem was mainly in darker scenes that you could tell were borderline on the original too, but it was making it significantly worse.

Second issue I've had is that with dolby vision enabled, I keep getting drop-outs on the video. From searching, seems to be not all that uncommon. I could have marginal cables maybe? I haven't tried replacing those yet, but probably will. Turn dv off, and everything works fine. Course, that was the reason I'd swapped in the 2019 for the one I'd had there.

So I'm kinda mixed on it. It's still a very good device, and if you value a good quality audio system, I'm not sure there's another great option out there that lets you do pass through audio to your avr from things like plex. Not sure if the amazon devices have ever gotten there. But it's also definitely lacking in some things these days - like the ability to play youtube with hdr. I'd really like to see them come out with an updated version that handles some of the few shortcomings it has, which would put it back on top.

If you decide you want to sell it - I have $50 Smilie
Oct 11, 2023 11:20 PM
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blackadderOct 11, 2023 11:20 PM
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I think these need to drop in price - below $100 for sure, but that being said, I love my shield 2019. It plays everything I throw at it and is much better as far as responsiveness compared to ANY smart tv ive used. Some of the newer ones may respond better but if a friend buys a $2000 tv I tell them to spend an extra %10 and get a shield so they dont have lag.
Oct 11, 2023 11:22 PM
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TheRedEyeBanditOct 11, 2023 11:22 PM
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As the owner of an og shield and two other android boxes.... save your money, buy a firestick or cube
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Oct 11, 2023 11:55 PM
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euuser11441308Oct 11, 2023 11:55 PM
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TL;DR the nVidia SHIELD is an overpriced media player that should have been refreshed 3 years ago. For the money, I suggest one of the many mini PCs that's available on Amazon or Aliexpress.

I've had my SHIELD for 5+ years. In the beginning, I used it for everything - retro gaming, Kodi with Real Debrid for downloads, Plex server, Kodi Matrix for watching videos, etc. I connected a fast Sandisk USB stick to expand the internal storage, a 4Tb external drive, and a wireless Azulle keyboard / mouse remote.

But over time, the SHIELD began to slow down. I couldn't download and watch videos at the same time without it glitching, it took a long time to refresh the video library, I had to restart the unit every time before watching a movie.

I began to move the functionalities off the SHIELD -- I no longer used it for gaming; I moved all my movies to a Synology NAS (that runs its own Plex server); I bought a used M1 Mac Mini for Kodi downloads *and* 4k streaming; I uninstalled every unused app; when I got a new TV instead of another SHIELD I got an Apple TV.

I still use the SHIELD, but it's only for watching videos on my NAS. The UI is okay but I wish the CPU is faster. For the money, I'll probably get another Apple TV or pick up a mini PC to use as a HTPC.
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Oct 12, 2023 12:22 AM
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robinmOct 12, 2023 12:22 AM
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Quote from Johngcp :
I love the shield for when it came out. It's been mostly solid and ahead of the pack. But make sure you check the shield forum on nvidia. They for about 2+ years now have had massive problems that they just can seem to solve. It really make updates scary to do, because you might end up turning your shield into a problem that just doesn't work as it should. There's no going back after updates. I remember once I did an update and the thing had a sound dropping issue for about 8 months to a year. They finally fixed the issue but the fix added about 20 more issues. At some point I got an update that was good enough and now I just never update it anymore which I'm glad because months after each fix I go and read the forums and you can clearly see a multitude of problems. If this was a small company you could easily say well it takes time but this is a multibillion dollar company and industry leader in their field. I have a fire 4K max and it's super cheap and seems to mostly have caught up with the things you can do on the yield minus gaming. A lot of the problems I have dealt with have to do with streaming services and with plex. If you like to stress and not know when a fix will be coming (and it's been about 3 they've been working on the latest problems introduced) then this is a good machine and very capable of being the best streaming box out there. Oh yeah lastly there's a problem where it floods the storage with junk so all of the space is eaten up in a day or so and it will constantly flash a massive box saying storage almost full on top of anything you're doing ever 30 seconds, I think it's great but I just wanted to warn people of what they might be getting into before they purchase it. Go look at the nvidia forums for the shield before purchasing.
This is so helpful, I've been on the fence on this for years. Thanks for the detailed post!
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Oct 12, 2023 01:32 AM
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smarttOct 12, 2023 01:32 AM
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Quote from Dudeman5284 :
How are you doing the 'VLC to play content off home server'? I'm using Plex, but it sounds like there is another option using VLC. I'm just not sure how you configure.
Are you not happy with Plex? Works on almost everything and it just works. I've messed with VLC but it can't compare to Plex in the realm of ease of use, interface or just plain intuitiveness. Just my opinion.

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Oct 12, 2023 01:47 AM
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omairOct 12, 2023 01:47 AM
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Quote from VSeven :
It's amazing how hard you nVidia fan bois will fight for ancient overpriced hardware. You think there is a difference between 3Gb of DDR3 and 2Gb of DDR4 for streaming? How is the WiFi 6e on the Shield? How about AV1 support? Oh, doesn't have those?

You are comparing a Tegra X1+ in the Shield which is a ARM Cortex-A57 quad-core (64-bit) that is NOT using the additional A53 quad-core to a ARM Cortex-A73 quad-core @ 2.2GHz + ARM Cortex-A53 quad-core @ 2.0GHz that is in the Cube. "Inferior hardware?" You should stop talking out your ass and read more.
Av1 is to save bandwidth.. who cares. X1+ is still better than most if not all amlogic processor. Any other box do up AI upscaling besides fire cube? How about audio codecs for home theater?
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