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Both the Intel i7-13700HX and AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS are almost exactly the same..
the i7 has 16 cores vs 8 on Ryzen (but it's not REALLY all 16 cores being used)
CPU BENCHMARKS [cpubenchmark.net]
This deal is $999.99 for the Intel cpu + RTX 4060 + 1tb ssd,
vs
Walmart $1029.99 for for the Ryzen cpu + RTX 4070 + 516gb ssd.
RTX 4060 vs RTX 4070 difference is 10% at most.
Intel cpu is slightly better and you get 1tb SSD instead of 512gb.
$30 more for 50% less storage, 10% better gpu, and slightly worse cpu?
or $30 less for 50% more storage, 10% worse gpu, and slightly better cpu?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5drb9Db
So yes the 4070 is worth it if your main interest is in a more capable gaming laptop. Especially at $30 more...
Ahh it's noisy but not effecting me. I use same one with 4050 versions. Screen excellent, no tons of bloatware, screen is very good bright and MS is good. Keyboard is weak side, buttons are like membrane smushing, after using mec kb while doesn't like it at all. Easy open and upgrade to ssd and ram. Power brick is kind a big but good. You can set up silent mode with couple buttons. You can setup 3 monitors on it. If you have display-link adapter it can go up to 5-6. IO is well enough for anyone. I picked up this for build quality. All hp omens and especially asus tuf series are super cheap materials. I highly recommend to go bestbuy and check material quality. Acer is really good. Tuf asus are worst than any machine.
Both the Intel i7-13700HX and AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS are almost exactly the same..
But... the HX processors are missing some power saving features and tend to have poor battery life. You also need a good cooling system to get the most out of the CPU.
But they have another benefit which is UV/OC capability, provided that the manufacturer allows it. Many lock it out, though. EDIT: It appears that Acer locks it out, and most do, as a response to Intel's UV protection. https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/co...ole_story/
The 7735HS shows up a lot on SD. It's a rebadged last gen 8-core and it's slow but power efficient. It isn't the greatest processor to pair with a gaming laptop. My preference would be an AMD with a 4 in the 3rd digit (like a 7840HS, or 7940HS) or an Intel 13th gen that ends with an H.
It's a fairly low budget gaming laptop with a high powered CPU, so if it doesn't get very loud at max settings, then it would be a weird design. But you can make it quiet if you want. The question is how fast it is when it's quiet.
If music production is your life, you will get more performance with less noise with a higher end machine. If it's a hobby, this one will probably serve you well.
Here is a comprehensive review by Jarrod. He addresses power levels and noise. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kch1PY6
EDIT: I did some research and it appears that music production software tends to barely use the graphic processor, so the optimum laptop for this wouldn't even have a dedicated GPU. The best would be one that has fastest CPU and has the cooling to run it at full speed. At any rate, this laptop would pretty good in this regard.
If you plan on using this unit's screen for most of your gaming, accept the fact that you'll rarely get over 60 frames per second on modern games. Last of Us barely comes in at 60 FPS with settings on 'High'.
This should have been a 1080p rig, full stop. It is what it is.
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Otherwise you can tweak the settings to get the frames you want, or... how about integer scaling? Would be 1280x800 then.
At any rate, a 4070 generally is ~15% faster than a 4060, and the vram is the same, so likely you'd have issues with that nearly as often.
Not as big a difference as you'd think, since usually the mobile xx70 series has always had a wider memory bus and significantly more performance vs the xx60 variants, not so this season.
Otherwise you can tweak the settings to get the frames you want, or... how about integer scaling? Would be 1280x800 then.
At any rate, a 4070 generally is ~15% faster than a 4060, and the vram is the same, so likely you'd have issues with that nearly as often.
DLSS on @ 1440p never came close to making the difference in the testing I saw, especially when you factor in the 165hz panel. Could med-low settings even max out this panel at 1440p? I don't think it could. Something to consider.
It's a fairly low budget gaming laptop with a high powered CPU, so if it doesn't get very loud at max settings, then it would be a weird design. But you can make it quiet if you want. The question is how fast it is when it's quiet.
If music production is your life, you will get more performance with less noise with a higher end machine. If it's a hobby, this one will probably serve you well.
Here is a comprehensive review by Jarrod. He addresses power levels and noise. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kch1PY6
EDIT: I did some research and it appears that music production software tends to barely use the graphic processor, so the optimum laptop for this wouldn't even have a dedicated GPU. The best would be one that has fastest CPU and has the cooling to run it at full speed. At any rate, this laptop would pretty good in this regard.
I'm probably confusing you, so let me explain better. The main thing making noise is the fans... specifically fans running at high RPM. So ideally what you want is laptop that a) has a fast CPU and b) has a very good cooling system... which is usually proven by the ability to run the CPU at high power levels (and speeds) continuously.
Usually laptop tests will use the the Cinebench R23 benchmark for raw CPU performance, and this is probably as good as any for your use case. So when looking at reviews, you'd want to know the score when it's in "quiet mode" or something similar. If that isn't given then comparing at max is good enough... that tells you how good the cooling is, and you can always tune them slower.
Creator laptops might be a better place to look. There have been some deals posted on Asus Vivobook lately as one example. They have graphic cards, so you can take advantage of any benefits that would give you, but they don't have as strong cooling as most gaming laptops. However they are biased more towards the CPU which is what you want.
For instance... and I posted some reviews there, but didn't really look at them: https://slickdeals.net/f/17151886-asus-vivobook-pro-16-16-3-2k-oled-120hz-i9-13900h-rtx-4060-16gb-ddr5-1tb-ssd-w-affirm-1299-99?v=1&p=167916
If it looks good to you, I'll take a more detailed look later...
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