expired Posted by almondsurf • May 16, 2024
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expired Posted by almondsurf • May 16, 2024
May 16, 2024 5:25 PM
Onkyo TX-NR7100 - $699
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Dirac Live itself is worth $700. To implement Dirac on an existing receiver with external MiniDSP devices would be more expensive than this. To get DL all wrapped into a pretty decent AVR for $550 - $700 is kind of incredible.
Dirac Live itself is worth $700. To implement Dirac on an existing receiver with external MiniDSP devices would be more expensive than this. To get DL all wrapped into a pretty decent AVR for $550 - $700 is kind of incredible.
This claim is supposedly supported by the fact that the receiver isn't even listed on the dirac.com/online-store license store. That doesn't bother me, though, as I'd be happy to have access to Dirac as a room correction newbie.
It is curious why they don't disclose that the license is "Full" in marketing for the receiver. I had to ask around on reddit and Adorama support to confirm.
I ended up buying this open box (as stated in the post) because I don't want to wait 6 months for another sale. Crossing my fingers that the open box is in good shape.
I ended up buying this open box (as stated in the post) because I don't want to wait 6 months for another sale. Crossing my fingers that the open box is in good shape.
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I ended up buying this open box (as stated in the post) because I don't want to wait 6 months for another sale. Crossing my fingers that the open box is in good shape.
Having those extra adjustments helps since Dirac Live relies on the AVRs bass management for its correction with it.
This claim is supposedly supported by the fact that the receiver isn't even listed on the dirac.com/online-store license store. That doesn't bother me, though, as I'd be happy to have access to Dirac as a room correction newbie.
It is curious why they don't disclose that the license is "Full" in marketing for the receiver. I had to ask around on reddit and Adorama support to confirm.
In any case, I'd love bass control and ART, and would pay for those licenses if I could, but I'm also happy to have a really nice featureful Dirac Live receiver for $700 or less. Looks like the entry level receivers that have Bass Control start at $2800 retail, so that makes my theory that receivers would have to have more horsepower to run Bass Control more plausible.
And it looks like you have to spend $10K+ to get Active Room Treatment. Hopefully if we wait another couple of years, some of this new tech will filter down to the $1500 or less receivers too.
In any case, I'd love bass control and ART, and would pay for those licenses if I could, but I'm also happy to have a really nice featureful Dirac Live receiver for $700 or less. Looks like the entry level receivers that have Bass Control start at $2800 retail, so that makes my theory that receivers would have to have more horsepower to run Bass Control more plausible.
And it looks like you have to spend $10K+ to get Active Room Treatment. Hopefully if we wait another couple of years, some of this new tech will filter down to the $1500 or less receivers too.
So you have to tack on another $500 to that.
The least expensive AVR that offers DLBC is Denon's 3800, which has gotten down to $900.
It's rumored to be getting the option for ART in the future.
Personally I would be pleasantly surprised if it did.
And thanks for the pointer to the SHARC ADSP-21593 chip. I'm going to do some reading but I assume this is like the DSP for Dirac? I can only imagine the calculations needed for Dirac Live + Bass Management + Atmos.
Seriously, I appreciate this. Yet another home theater rabbit hole to fall down.
So you have to tack on another $500 to that.
The least expensive AVR that offers DLBC is Denon's 3800, which has gotten down to $900.
It's rumored to be getting the option for ART in the future.
Personally I would be pleasantly surprised if it did.
Would you say that if you need Bass Management, the 3800 at ~$1700 is a steal and if you just need Dirac LIve, the 7100 at $550-700 is a deal? And with ART, the 3800 is even more of a steal.
And thanks for the pointer to the SHARC ADSP-21593 chip. I'm going to do some reading but I assume this is like the DSP for Dirac? I can only imagine the calculations needed for Dirac Live + Bass Management + Atmos.
Seriously, I appreciate this. Yet another home theater rabbit hole to fall down.
My understanding is that the SHARC chip will also allow a lowly 3800 to perform Dirac ART down the road as well. To be honest, if you can afford to pay for licenses to go all the way to ART, you'd probably be better off with the pricey processors like StormAudio that can do well beyond 2000 MIPS!
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Would you say that if you need Bass Management, the 3800 at ~$1700 is a steal and if you just need Dirac LIve, the 7100 at $550-700 is a deal? And with ART, the 3800 is even more of a steal.
If you wait for the usual 30% discount(like in January) at the end of the year, you can get them for $560.
Most people at this mid level don't find much benefit in DLBC so they will find ART even less a benefit/need.
There are even people that have the option and find there is no compulsion to purchase DLBC!
The other issue, ART ideally requires full range/reference bed/core speakers & 4 independent subwoofers.
Often people at this level don't believe that is a benefit so they don't fall under those circumstances.
DLBC is a requirement prior to getting ART after all.
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