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expirediconian | Staff posted Jun 08, 2024 12:07 AM
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expirediconian | Staff posted Jun 08, 2024 12:07 AM
Onkyo TX-RZ50 9.2-Channel 8K/4K Network AV Receiver
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I made the right choice.
....for another fight with the wifey!
The manner in which they handled that problem turned me forever against Onkyo (and FYI, I gave them MANY chances at retaining me as a loyal customer).
They couldn't be bothered to do the right thing. So... they are 'permanently banned' in my house & amongst my small circle of close friends.
BTW, I hope OP doesn't take my comment as me crapping on this thread... I'm just stating my own personal experience/facts & also my associated opinions surrounding those facts.
I don't wish any grief upon Onkyo or their employees. I truly hope that Onkyo has since changed their company culture on how they treat their loyal customers, especially when their is a KNOWN systemic problem affecting MANY of their (often premium-priced) products.
And one last thing... notice I just described their products as 'premium priced'.
This 'prepaid premium' is what ultimately made my decision to basically 'forever ban them' a lot easier.
You often pay a premium for a product not only because of the real (or perceived) quality... but also for the steps the company takes to 'make things better', regardless of the cost (w/in reason, obviously).
Sorry for the long post. And... good luck with your Onkyo product! : )
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The manner in which they handled that problem turned me forever against Onkyo (and FYI, I gave them MANY chances at retaining me as a loyal customer).
They couldn't be bothered to do the right thing. So... they are 'permanently banned' in my house & amongst my small circle of close friends.
BTW, I hope OP doesn't take my comment as me crapping on this thread... I'm just stating my own personal experience/facts & also my associated opinions surrounding those facts.
I don't wish any grief upon Onkyo or their employees. I truly hope that Onkyo has since changed their company culture on how they treat their loyal customers, especially when their is a KNOWN systemic problem affecting MANY of their (often premium-priced) products.
And one last thing... notice I just described their products as 'premium priced'.
This 'prepaid premium' is what ultimately made my decision to basically 'forever ban them' a lot easier.
You often pay a premium for a product not only because of the real (or perceived) quality... but also for the steps the company takes to 'make things better', regardless of the cost (w/in reason, obviously).
Sorry for the long post. And... good luck with your Onkyo product! : )
....for another fight with the wifey!
It's the same form factor and weight as the Denon 6700H, and you know what that means.
OK... So the amp section is lacking... What do you think about using the TX-RZ50 as a surround sound preamp/processor? Just add a good multichannel power amp (you chose the number of channels) to the pre-outs...
The AVSForum thread hasn't really reported this perceived issue. Yes the amp did shutdown but most AV pros say that it shouldn't happen in real use.
The manner in which they handled that problem turned me forever against Onkyo (and FYI, I gave them MANY chances at retaining me as a loyal customer).
They couldn't be bothered to do the right thing. So... they are 'permanently banned' in my house & amongst my small circle of close friends.
BTW, I hope OP doesn't take my comment as me crapping on this thread... I'm just stating my own personal experience/facts & also my associated opinions surrounding those facts.
I don't wish any grief upon Onkyo or their employees. I truly hope that Onkyo has since changed their company culture on how they treat their loyal customers, especially when their is a KNOWN systemic problem affecting MANY of their (often premium-priced) products.
And one last thing... notice I just described their products as 'premium priced'.
This 'prepaid premium' is what ultimately made my decision to basically 'forever ban them' a lot easier.
You often pay a premium for a product not only because of the real (or perceived) quality... but also for the steps the company takes to 'make things better', regardless of the cost (w/in reason, obviously).
Sorry for the long post. And... good luck with your Onkyo product! : )
The gamble worked as you can see how poplar they are.
Dirac is the only reason to even consider them imo.
I know a couple of people that said the same but bought in also.
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The wides is the reason this won't work & will cost you to stick to them.
If you do the 6700 is the best option. It hit $1499 about 6 months ago.
If you don't and with 4 subs I would suggest sticking with Denon(or Marantz).
They offer 4 independent sub outs & gain sub EQ HT,access to MultEQ Editor app($20),
and Audyssey's new Directional sub integration RC. Same concept as what Dirac Live Bass Control does.
Speak of Dirac, you have access to both Dirac Live and Dirac Live Bass Control IF you ever want it.
The least expensive would be the 3800 and has hit $900, more commonly $1k.
Since Klipsch fairly efficient speakers that should not be an issue with it.
If it is you can always add an external amp.
FYI all 11 channels are assignable and each channel can be turned off independently while using pre outs via preamp mode.
The AVSForum thread hasn't really reported this perceived issue. Yes the amp did shutdown but most AV pros say that it shouldn't happen in real use.
He also says that this only happens with 4 and 6 ohm speakers, not 8.
The pre outs don't override this since the internal amps continue to draw power( not turn off).
That said people should read all that with the grain of salt imo.
Often people understand that most those measurements are not audible.
So if they are a sonic benefit or downfall is all in the ear of the beholder and just a paper debate.
There are many claims that there is no issue w/low impedance speakers. I wonder how many of these owners are volunteering that their system is powered externally?
In summary, the RZ50's success is largely aided by:
1) Many folks having 8 ohm nominal speakers
2) Most folks are not audiophiles and can't quite articulate the throttling (i.e. fewer complaints)
3) Its popularity as a prepro where the faults of the amp are entirely ignored
4) Its use as a 3rd or 4th receiver in a smaller room. No one's blasting the volume in a tighter listening area!
Volkswagen was crucified for its diesel/emissions scandal! Why does Onkyo/Pioneer/Integra (Voxx) get a pass? There aren't too many mass market brands to choose from...
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I just can't pull the trigger on the RZ50 because I've heard it can't properly tune 2 subs and also has a global crossover... and I don't want to buy extra equipment just to tune my subs. Patiently waiting for a deal on the Denon that isn't a refurb.
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