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ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14 Laptop: Ryzen 9 7940HS, 14" QHD+ 165Hz, RTX 4060, 512GB SSD

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Best Buy via eBay has ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14 Laptop (GA402XV-G14.R94060) on sale for $1049.99 (price in cart). Shipping is free.

Best Buy has ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14 Laptop (GA402XV-G14.R94060) on sale for $1049.99. Shipping is free.
  • Open-Box Excellent ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14 Laptop (GA402XV-G14.R94060) on sale for $871.99. Shipping is free.
Thanks to Community Member Dr.Wajahat for sharing this deal.

Specs:
  • 14" 2560 x 1600 WQXGA QHD+ IPS-level 165Hz 3ms G-Sync Display, Pantone Validated
  • AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS 8-Core / 16-Thread Processor
  • 16GB DDR5 RAM
  • 512GB PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive
  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 8GB GDDR6 Graphics (125W)
  • Wi-Fi 6E 802.11ax 2*2 + Bluetooth 5.3
  • Backlit Chiclet Keyboard 1-Zone RGB
  • Windows 11 Home
  • Ports:
    • 1x 3.5mm Combo Audio Jack
    • 1x HDMI 2.1 FRL
    • 2x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-A
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C (support DisplayPort)
    • 1x Type C USB 4 (support DisplayPort / power delivery)
    • 1x microSD card reader
  • 76WHrs battery
  • ~3.64 lbs

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Best Buy via eBay has ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14 Laptop (GA402XV-G14.R94060) on sale for $1049.99 (price in cart). Shipping is free.

Best Buy has ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14 Laptop (GA402XV-G14.R94060) on sale for $1049.99. Shipping is free.
  • Open-Box Excellent ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14 Laptop (GA402XV-G14.R94060) on sale for $871.99. Shipping is free.
Thanks to Community Member Dr.Wajahat for sharing this deal.

Specs:
  • 14" 2560 x 1600 WQXGA QHD+ IPS-level 165Hz 3ms G-Sync Display, Pantone Validated
  • AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS 8-Core / 16-Thread Processor
  • 16GB DDR5 RAM
  • 512GB PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive
  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 8GB GDDR6 Graphics (125W)
  • Wi-Fi 6E 802.11ax 2*2 + Bluetooth 5.3
  • Backlit Chiclet Keyboard 1-Zone RGB
  • Windows 11 Home
  • Ports:
    • 1x 3.5mm Combo Audio Jack
    • 1x HDMI 2.1 FRL
    • 2x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-A
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C (support DisplayPort)
    • 1x Type C USB 4 (support DisplayPort / power delivery)
    • 1x microSD card reader
  • 76WHrs battery
  • ~3.64 lbs

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Model: ASUS - ROG Zephyrus 14” QHD 165Hz Gaming Laptop – AMD Ryzen 9– 16GB DDR5 Memory – NVIDIA RTX 4060 8G GDDR6 – 512GB PCIe 4.0 SSD - Moonlight White

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Jan 23, 2024 1:15 AM
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MasejoerJan 23, 2024 1:15 AM
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Quote from 1ambulletproof :
I'm afraid you may be thinking of the desktop GPU not the laptop.

While the desktop 4070 is much better than the 4060, the same is not true of the laptop equivalent.

The laptop 4060 is within 5% of the desktop equivalent part. It's only about 20% better than the 3060 but includes dlss 3 frame gen making it 50% better in some games.

The LAPTOP 4070 is only 10-20% better and you often pay 50% more for a laptop with one.

The 4060 LAPTOP is the sweet spot. A 4080 is a big step up if you need the power but at a big cost financially, and in power/heat.

Also while I'm ranting, everyone should take a second look at the 4050: historically/recently nvidia XX50 GPU was trash (2050/3050) but the 4050 is roughly equivalent to the 3060 and a much better option than something like the 3050. The 4050 is upwards of a 40% improvement over the 3050!

All the same I still think the 4060 is a much better long term
Option because it has 2GB more video memory (6 vs 8).
Yep - 4060 is the sweet spot for value, especially as a $850 open box 14-inch machine with a Zen4 8-core CPU. At full power, it's pretty close to the desktop 1080Ti in performance. In balanced mode, it's about a desktop 1070. In quiet mode, it can still push desktop 1060 performance.

This thing gets a bit of a performance boost by adding a second stick of RAM too, to get quad channel memory going.

The left-side USB4 port is great (and my Thunderbolt 3 dock works correctly), and the machine works fine with 65W and 100W USB-PD chargers. I don't remember if I tried a 45W. Things that other laptops are lacking versatility on.
Last edited by Masejoer January 22, 2024 at 05:20 PM.
Jan 23, 2024 1:19 AM
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1ambulletproofJan 23, 2024 1:19 AM
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Quote from Masejoer :
https://github.com/seerge/g-helper
https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUSROG/...s_awesome/ - Top reddit comment pretty much sums it up. It's the best app I've seen on any laptop/brand to control all of this.

-----

Download the app from Github's download link, extract it, and run. I have mine extracted to C:\Program Files\G-Helper. It will appear in the system tray. Opening the window, there is an "Extra" button to the lower right, which you can open and click "Stop" to kill all the Asus factory services. This alone dropped my idle power draw from 11W to 4W.

Keyboard illumination settings are on the main app screen. Fan and power/"Voltage" control, you can find under the Fans + Power button. Obviously test the machine out with Prime95 or something after making adjustments, to find what your specific hardware can do.

Battery Charge Limit will let you force the battery to stop charging at a certain threshold, extending the life of the battery (just crank to 80-100% before you plan on being away from the outlet for hours at a time).

Plus all the other features the program has - it does everything useful that Armory Crate provides, but in a very lightweight system-tray application.

-----

If it wasn't for G-Helper, I'd like Lenovo's machines more. This app just allows Asus machines to excel on configurability.
Awesome thanks so much.

What about the undercoating and ability to keep the device cool? Is that just fan curves?
Jan 23, 2024 1:24 AM
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MasejoerJan 23, 2024 1:24 AM
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Quote from ErronB :
That's the reason I had to return several Asus laptops last year, nice machines but really shite backlight bleed. Just couldn't get a good one with the Zephyrus with 3070Ti. Shame.
Sometimes you can unclip part of a bezel to relieve the pressure on the corners, but I didn't have such luck with the G14.

If only we'd get some thicker bezels and/or lids again - more rigidity in the frame can prevent all of this. Or we can ignore it and continue to move toward OLED, and wish MicroLED would hurry up for its theoretical better image retention characteristics. A lot of IPS laptops 15 years ago, with the first LED edge-lit displays, didn't have such problems, and of course CCFL was less noticeable as a solid bar.
Jan 23, 2024 1:28 AM
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alceryesJan 23, 2024 1:28 AM
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Quote from Masejoer :
This thing gets a bit of a performance boost by adding a second stick of RAM too, to get quad channel memory going.
The vast majority of laptop CPUs (including this one) support up to dual channel configuration only. Many programs like CPUz, HWiNFO64, Sisoft SANDRA, etc. incorrectly report single channel as dual and dual as quad due to layout/trace/programming shenanigans done by the manufacturers. In short, these systems (mostly laptops, SFF, and Micro builds) are dual channel systems (max).
Jan 23, 2024 1:33 AM
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MasejoerJan 23, 2024 1:33 AM
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Quote from 1ambulletproof :
Awesome thanks so much.

What about the undercoating and ability to keep the device cool? Is that just fan curves?
Fans + Power button, then under the Advanced tab. You have temperature limits (will throttle based on temperature, separate from fan curves) and "Undervolting," which isn't quite a traditional Under-Volt, but effectively does the same thing.

I've seen two machines handle "-30" stable, but the third needed -20 instead. The one with the smaller undervolt had a lower factory Voltage though - it actually performed better than the two other machines under benchmarks, even after adjusting the sliders. It had to be returned due to 3 bright areas in the backlighting, which was even noticeable at 10% screen brightness in a lit room. Some screens are just too much to deal with.
Jan 23, 2024 1:33 AM
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MasejoerJan 23, 2024 1:33 AM
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Quote from alceryes :
The vast majority of laptop CPUs (including this one) support up to dual channel configuration only. Many programs like CPUz, HWiNFO64, Sisoft SANDRA, etc. incorrectly report single channel as dual and dual as quad due to layout/trace/programming shenanigans done by the manufacturers. In short, these systems (mostly laptops, SFF, and Micro builds) are dual channel systems (max).
DDR5 is always dual channel on one stick - it's part of the spec as two 32-bit channels. Two sticks gives you quad channel, but the channels are half the width of DDR4, which was 64-bit per channel.

I never read the reasoning as to why they changed it up like this. I should do that one of these days.
Last edited by Masejoer January 22, 2024 at 05:40 PM.
Jan 23, 2024 1:41 AM
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alceryesJan 23, 2024 1:41 AM
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Quote from Masejoer :
DDR5 is always dual channel on one stick - it's the spec afaik? Two sticks gives you quad channel.

The easy verification is to perform bandwidth synthetic tests.
That is NOT true dual channel. The RAM data width is still 64-bits total. The multiple channels on-stick do help with latencies and delays but you're comparing apples to pens. They are two different things

There is a spectacular video that goes way more in depth about this than needed. It's a good watch even if you understand less than half of it (like me). Standby, lemme find.

Edit - I think this is the one where Buildzoid (Actual Hardware Overclocking) actually explains the dual channel on chip. Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtGXAZznKSc
Last edited by alceryes January 22, 2024 at 05:47 PM.

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Jan 23, 2024 2:02 AM
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condemned5Jan 23, 2024 2:02 AM
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Quote from TalentedAction901 :
Asus please send the USA the darker grey/black versions of the G14!!!!
Best buy model is white
Jan 23, 2024 2:18 AM
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1ambulletproofJan 23, 2024 2:18 AM
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Quote from Masejoer :
https://github.com/seerge/g-helper
https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUSROG/...s_awesome/ - Top reddit comment pretty much sums it up. It's the best app I've seen on any laptop/brand to control all of this.

-----

Download the app from Github's download link, extract it, and run. I have mine extracted to C:\Program Files\G-Helper. It will appear in the system tray. Opening the window, there is an "Extra" button to the lower right, which you can open and click "Stop" to kill all the Asus factory services. This alone dropped my idle power draw from 11W to 4W.

Keyboard illumination settings are on the main app screen. Fan and power/"Voltage" control, you can find under the Fans + Power button. Obviously test the machine out with Prime95 or something after making adjustments, to find what your specific hardware can do.

Battery Charge Limit will let you force the battery to stop charging at a certain threshold, extending the life of the battery (just crank to 80-100% before you plan on being away from the outlet for hours at a time).

Plus all the other features the program has - it does everything useful that Armory Crate provides, but in a very lightweight system-tray application.

-----

If it wasn't for G-Helper, I'd like Lenovo's machines more. This app just allows Asus machines to excel on configurability.
Another quick question: do you or anyone know how the preferences for general performance in g-helper / crate interact with the windows built in settings (eg power saver)? Do I need to change both in tandem? Do they overwrite each other?
Jan 23, 2024 2:21 AM
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LXNDSHARKJan 23, 2024 2:21 AM
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Quote from TalionPrime :
In for one open box-excellent for $871!! 60% cheaper than the 4070 version I ordered two days ago, with only 10%-12% loss of total gaming performance. Excellent deal, thank you and repped.

Edit: 4070 60% more expensive than 4060 variant open box (at $1,400 vs $871 or $529 more).
Worth noting the 4070 model had open box excellent for around $1200.
Jan 23, 2024 3:11 AM
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MasejoerJan 23, 2024 3:11 AM
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Quote from alceryes :
That is NOT true dual channel. The RAM data width is still 64-bits total. The multiple channels on-stick do help with latencies and delays but you're comparing apples to pens. They are two different things

There is a spectacular video that goes way more in depth about this than needed. It's a good watch even if you understand less than half of it (like me). Standby, lemme find.

Edit - I think this is the one where Buildzoid (Actual Hardware Overclocking) actually explains the dual channel on chip. Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtGXAZznKSc
Thanks, I'll check it out.
Jan 23, 2024 3:12 AM
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Pka555Jan 23, 2024 3:12 AM
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Can anyone comment on how the usability of this laptop under normal activities? For example, browsing, media consumption, programming, etc.. I currently have a Thinkpad which runs the fan all the time, well.. most of the time even under normal activity. Considering this has a dedicated gpu, would it be consuming extra power under normal activity.

fyi, I am considering this for programming(java, python, docker, etc..), mediocre Video editing and occasional gaming. Any inputs? Thanks!!!
Jan 23, 2024 3:14 AM
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MasejoerJan 23, 2024 3:14 AM
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Quote from 1ambulletproof :
Another quick question: do you or anyone know how the preferences for general performance in g-helper / crate interact with the windows built in settings (eg power saver)? Do I need to change both in tandem? Do they overwrite each other?
You can choose the Windows power mode within the G-Helper settings for each performance mode. The Asus settings are going to change your Wattages, fan curves, what whatnot, but they do not directly change anything regarding windows power settings (sleep settings, peripheral power states, etc).
Jan 23, 2024 3:17 AM
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MasejoerJan 23, 2024 3:17 AM
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Quote from Pka555 :
Can anyone comment on how the usability of this laptop under normal activities? For example, browsing, media consumption, programming, etc.. I currently have a Thinkpad which runs the fan all the time, well.. most of the time even under normal activity. Considering this has a dedicated gpu, would it be consuming extra power under normal activity.

fyi, I am considering this for programming(java, python, docker, etc..), mediocre Video editing and occasional gaming. Any inputs? Thanks!!!
Standard Optimus switching, but you can easily control the GPU modes in software. For productivity use, you can keep it on the integrated graphics, but keep in mind that certain outputs, such as the HDMI port of USB4 port, are connected directly to the Nvidia graphics. I don't recall which ports are connected to which GPU.

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Jan 23, 2024 3:24 AM
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I tried to buy an open box excellent 3 times and the order goes through and then best buy cancels it a minute later. No idea what's going on.

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