expirediconian | Staff posted May 10, 2024 11:33 PM
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expirediconian | Staff posted May 10, 2024 11:33 PM
Onkyo TX-RZ50 9.2-Channel THX Certified AV Receiver
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They also own a few other audio brands
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I actually own this unit and for this price I dont know anything on the market that touches it for home theater applications
I suggest you read the AVS forum thread from actual owners who have set this up and know the tips and tricks specific to this Onkyo
Each brand seems to have implement Dirac a bit differently..IMO..the Onkyo is a simplified set up of Dirac
https://www.avsforum.co
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At the very least not having to go through all those 1K pages of pre & post
bass management settings/adjustments to figure out which you will prefer or work best for you is easily well worth it imo.
I paid $350 for multi DLBC, easily well worth that price!
By your own admission you don't own DLBC.
Remind us again how "exactly" you know DLBC is no benefit in your setup?
I think it was something about just having one sub! 🤔
At best, you are a vendor with an agenda. At worst, you are a Slickdeals member with "approximate knowledge".
Perhaps rz50 has the reviews and place on their over all line up that they are reluctant to give that high of a price break.
Thanks OP for listing. Holding out to see if they come down a bit more.
At best, you are a vendor with an agenda. At worst, you are a Slickdeals member with "approximate knowledge".
Giving information directly from Dirac's user manual & a renowned AV professional/installer that worked directly with Dirac concerning best way to use Dirac and common "misinformation" is NOT "helpful"!? 🤔
If they are "misinforming" everyone and since you claim to have read all those thousands of pages from so called "experts".
Please be "helpful" and tell us how they are misinforming everyone?
Giving information directly from Dirac's user manual & a renowned AV professional/installer that worked directly with Dirac concerning best way to use Dirac and common "misinformation" is NOT "helpful"!? 🤔
If they are "misinforming" everyone and since you claim to have read all those thousands of pages from so called "experts".
Please be "helpful" and tell us how they are misinforming everyone?
I anxiously await your next "pearl of wisdom"!
I plan to pick up a Marantz 5 channel Amplifier this weekend to go with it.
I'll let the Marantz handle LCR and the LR surounds. I'll let the Onkyo handle the 4 atmos and the 2 rears.
Again no one is clamoring for DLBC.
On the contrary, more like complain about the cost and not worth it!
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I " guess" that could make sense
If you are speaking the bigger market I disagree. People are very much interested in DLBC and ART
There is definitely a crowd that uses that AV Science Sinad numbers as an important metric as well
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I " guess" that could make sense
If you are speaking the bigger market I disagree. People are very much interested in DLBC and ART
There is definitely a crowd that uses that AV Science Sinad numbers as an important metric as well
I anxiously await your next "pearl of wisdom"!
Just pointed out what Dirac says what their products do.
Clearly you disagree, why should we believe you?
I anxiously await your next "pearl of wisdom"!
I " guess" that could make sense
If you are speaking the bigger market I disagree. People are very much interested in DLBC and ART
There is definitely a crowd that uses that AV Science Sinad numbers as an important metric as well
Least expensive way of getting DLBC is the 3800 yet most people say it's not a good value!
Based on shaddai's crystal ball he know the 3800 is gonna get ART in the future!
That still doesn't garner much value.
Even shaddai isn't compelled on getting DLBC let alone ART.
So yes it sure looks like DLBC and or ART isn't sought after much IMO.
As far as sinad numbers they must not mean to much IN HERE since over at AV science Amir concluded about this AVR:
"The amplifier has serious power limiting "feature" and even without it, it is not competitive with other products out there"
Yet people in here say 99% of us would very satisfied with this.
Not my information, just an observation.
Least expensive way of getting DLBC is the 3800 yet most people say it's not a good value!
Based on shaddai's crystal ball he know the 3800 is gonna get ART in the future!
That still doesn't garner much value.
Even shaddai isn't compelled on getting DLBC let alone ART.
So yes it sure looks like DLBC and or ART isn't sought after much IMO.
As far as sinad numbers they must not mean to much IN HERE since over at AV science Amir concluded about this AVR:
"The amplifier has serious power limiting "feature" and even without it, it is not competitive with other products out there"
Yet people in here say 99% of us would very satisfied with this.
Not my information, just an observation.
I guess you can make assumptions if you care to..but those assumptions fall into the realm of slick deals
DLBC and ART ( and Sinad numbers) are very important to a lot of AV enthusiasts.
I dont think SD represents a significant amount of the AV market
The assessment of the value( or lack of) of the X3800 has everything to do with the Dirac equipped Onkyo products, IMO.
Additionally, the Denon X3800 performed poorly in the AV science testing.
Poorly performing, high price, hundreds of dollars for Dirac are not a good combination.
I would assume, based on posts, that most people here on slick deals think Dirac is a better RC system.
In fact I would say that is true outside of slick deals in the Av world
To obtain that RC system in the pricing sweet spot of slick deals( in my opinion) in a thread such as this one
https://slickdeals.net/f/17424975-onkyo-tx-nr7100-9-2-channel-8k-4k-network-a-v-receiver-549-free-shipping?src=Si
I guess you can make assumptions if you care to..but those assumptions fall into the realm of slick deals
DLBC and ART ( and Sinad numbers) are very important to a lot of AV enthusiasts.
I dont think SD represents a significant amount of the AV market
The assessment of the value( or lack of) of the X3800 has everything to do with the Dirac equipped Onkyo products, IMO.
Additionally, the Denon X3800 performed poorly in the AV science testing.
Poorly performing, high price, hundreds of dollars for Dirac are not a good combination.
I would assume, based on posts, that most people here on slick deals think Dirac is a better RC system.
In fact I would say that is true outside of slick deals in the Av world
To obtain that RC system in the pricing sweet spot of slick deals( in my opinion) in a thread such as this one
https://slickdeals.net/f/17424975-onkyo-tx-nr7100-9-2-channel-8k-4k-network-a-v-receiver-549-free-shipping?src=Si
As a matter of fact, you just made the common assumption about the 3800.
The 3800 has come down to this price(high price?).
For the same price it offers DLBC and according to shaddai & rumors it will get ART this AVR will not.
So this was poorly performing(also), same price, no access to the "very important" DLBC and ART! 🤔
With the 3800 IF you need Dirac, for the $350(when not on sale) you get Dirac Live+ four independent sub outs+ all assignable channels+pre amp mode for all channels individually and access to "very important" DLBC & ART.
In my observation for $1250 nothing comes close, that's a lot of value imo.
If that's not correct, which offers more especially when considering the "very important" DLBC & ART?
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As a matter of fact, you just made the common assumption about the 3800.
The 3800 has come down to this price(high price?).
For the same price it offers DLBC and according to shaddai & rumors it will get ART this AVR will not.
So this was poorly performing(also), same price, no access to the "very important" DLBC and ART! 🤔
With the 3800 IF you need Dirac, for the $350(when not on sale) you get Dirac Live+ four independent sub outs+ all assignable channels+pre amp mode for all channels individually and access to "very important" DLBC & ART.
In my observation for $1250 nothing comes close, that's a lot of value imo.
If that's not correct, which offers more especially when considering the "very important" DLBC & ART?
Otherwise it an assumption based on limited information, at best
Then you are mixing metrics
For the arena of slick deals
First off..I dont think the slick deals crowd, for the most part, cares that AVR's get poor ratings at AV science
DLBC and ART dont seem like " must haves" either on slick deals
So what value does the DenonX3800, in the slick deals realm, have over the Onkyo RZ50 or frankly the 7100
On the higher level spectrum where people start to care about SINAD numbers, amp power supply performance, DLBC and ART the X3800 is WAY overpriced
Now, if the "every other week price "was $899 for the Denon X3800 I would have a different opinion
These Onkyo's( RZ50 and 7100) are a heck of a deal and from what I read in 3 years of owner's people seem very satisfied...with no complaints about the power limiting that AV Science experienced.
Again, I dont think the crowd buying the units cares as it meets their expectations
For the higher performance crowd the RZ70 seems to check all the boxes( for the under $3500 crowd, IMO)
At the $2k ish price that keeps popping up on it its also another deal, IMO
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