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I have a 1950x and the highest I can upgrade is 2970x but with my MB and Ram it will be bottlenecked and it's not even worth it's used price with latest CPUs so I don't believe in upgrading.
For me upgrading is selling the old PC altogether and buying/building a new one.
if you're gonna spend this kind of money...then just wait? for how long? what are we waiting for? what if you need it now? what if you have the disposable income? what if you've already been waiting since the 3000 series? what if you have all your parts? what if you just want to build now? should we just keep waiting? if am5 is gonna cost this much, should you just wait until the next gen? what if you can't get am5 when it comes out, should i get this then?
please tell me, under WHAT SCENARIO does it make sense in your head to get this chip?
i'm assuming that you are not the target audience for it but you fail to even understand that you aren't the audience because you probably only think about yourself? are you conflating your current disposable income issues with everyone else?
every single time there's a thread about any computer part, there is this one guy that says the same thing. "wait." do these people lack self awareness or what?
So when it finally was available near MSRP, I was thinking whether to wait for the next-gen or get the 5900X knowing that the next gen CPU would also need a new MB and DDR5 RAM.
What got me to jump in was I reasoned that even if COVID didn't happen, the 6900x (or whatever the 12 core 24 thread would be called) would be more expensive just like the 5900x (12/24) was more than the 3900X (12/24). It would also require more expensive RAM.
Plus, there's always either a chipset revision or a newer chipset. I was leading edge with the Ryzen 1800X. But in retrospect, it was a bit of a burn because it was fairly quickly revised and replaced after they realized the memory bandwidth issues.
So I did build a 5900X system last month. Though GPUs are the key problem in any build these days. Still trying to get a 3080 without having to spend $2k for just a GPU.
When the imaginary 6900X comes out, I can wait a year or so for the chipsets to settle out and kinks worked out. Also, faster DDR5 will likely be available when I'm in the market again. I remember when I got the 3900X, I was kind of speed starved by the DDR4 out there but now there is faster DDR4 that's good to pair with my 5900x.
Because upgrading to a better (and often cheaper) processor meant new MB, new RAM, etc. I have a 5600X right now and I'm keen to get one of these once they drop another $50-100.
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Because upgrading to a better (and often cheaper) processor meant new MB, new RAM, etc. I have a 5600X right now and I'm keen to get one of these once they drop another $50-100.
Buying now means buying a very mature and stable platform that is well optimized. When AM5 first comes out, or when the new intel set first comes out, you're almost certainly going to be paying to be part of the beta testing group - and the performance gains over this last iteration of am4 is not likely going to be overwhelming.
I don't expect that the 5000 am4 line is going to rendered obsolete soon at all. in fact, I expect them to be viable at least five or six years down the line, if not more, much like sandy bridge and ivy bridge - processors which are still quite servicable today, nearly ten years after their introduction.
I'm also not sure about the wisdom of waiting until am5 or intel's next set comes out to buy am4/5000. with the demand out there, there will likely be hardly any supply left at that time. manufacturers gauge their production quite closely and I do not expect that there will be shelves full of motherboards at deep discounts. I'd say 10-15% discount would be about the most one would expect. don't forget that there's plenty of consumers who already have motherboards and are just waiting for the cpu prices to fall.
in any event, if you truly want to save money, "timing" the market is kind of a fool's errand. instead, buy a quality platform, build a quality rig, and use it for ten years, resisting every new technology that brings incremental improvements until there is a clear and irreconcilable reason to upgrade.
btw, if I were seeking most "bang for buck", I'd probably get the following:
- 5600x
- msi tomahawk x570 (save a bit more if you get matx)
- 16gb ddr4 (you really don't need 32)
- eschew pcie4 nvme; samsung 980 is good enough
but get noctua fans! don't subject yourself to miserable acoustics for years on end.
Hopefully you have learned your lesson. 😉
Buying now means buying a very mature and stable platform that is well optimized. When AM5 first comes out, or when the new intel set first comes out, you're almost certainly going to be paying to be part of the beta testing group - and the performance gains over this last iteration of am4 is not likely going to be overwhelming.
I don't expect that the 5000 am4 line is going to rendered obsolete soon at all. in fact, I expect them to be viable at least five or six years down the line, if not more, much like sandy bridge and ivy bridge - processors which are still quite servicable today, nearly ten years after their introduction.
I'm also not sure about the wisdom of waiting until am5 or intel's next set comes out to buy am4/5000. with the demand out there, there will likely be hardly any supply left at that time. manufacturers gauge their production quite closely and I do not expect that there will be shelves full of motherboards at deep discounts. I'd say 10-15% discount would be about the most one would expect. don't forget that there's plenty of consumers who already have motherboards and are just waiting for the cpu prices to fall.
in any event, if you truly want to save money, "timing" the market is kind of a fool's errand. instead, buy a quality platform, build a quality rig, and use it for ten years, resisting every new technology that brings incremental improvements until there is a clear and irreconcilable reason to upgrade.
btw, if I were seeking most "bang for buck", I'd probably get the following:
- 5600x
- msi tomahawk x570 (save a bit more if you get matx)
- 16gb ddr4 (you really don't need 32)
- eschew pcie4 nvme; samsung 980 is good enough
but get noctua fans! don't subject yourself to miserable acoustics for years on end.
https://videocardz.com/newz/intel...h-r20-test
Personally I would wait, you either end up with a better product via Intel 12th gen on a socket that will last 2-3 generations or you buy the 5950x at a discounted price in 2 months because AMD now has competition, but unfortunately AM4 is basically a dead socket at this point, so its a better upgrade than a full build.
Very true. Sadly my old intel 4770k died a horrible death during middle of covid and I was forced to grind out a cpu by chasing online after all the bots and scalpers. Real annoying.
it's a solid platform but as mentioned, once intel provides some competition amd prices will normalize quite a bit
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