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  • Apple M1 Pro Chip 8-Core Processor
  • 14.2" 3024x1964 Liquid Retina XDR Display
  • 512GB Solid State Drive
  • 16GB RAM
  • Apple M1 Pro 14-Core GPU
  • 802.11ax Wi-Fi 6 + Bluetooth 5.0
  • 1080p FaceTime HD Camera
  • Backlit Magic Keyboard w/ Touch ID
  • Ports:
    • 3x Thunderbolt 4 (USB-C) Ports w/ support for Charging
    • 1x SDXC
    • 1x HDMI
    • 1x 3.5mm Headphone Jack
    • 1x MagSafe 3

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Best Buy has Apple 14" MacBook Pro Laptop (2021 Model) on sale for $1,599. Shipping is free.Thanks to Community Member PharmDao for sharing this deal.

Specs:
  • Apple M1 Pro Chip 8-Core Processor
  • 14.2" 3024x1964 Liquid Retina XDR Display
  • 512GB Solid State Drive
  • 16GB RAM
  • Apple M1 Pro 14-Core GPU
  • 802.11ax Wi-Fi 6 + Bluetooth 5.0
  • 1080p FaceTime HD Camera
  • Backlit Magic Keyboard w/ Touch ID
  • Ports:
    • 3x Thunderbolt 4 (USB-C) Ports w/ support for Charging
    • 1x SDXC
    • 1x HDMI
    • 1x 3.5mm Headphone Jack
    • 1x MagSafe 3

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Sep 3, 2022 3:52 AM
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xBubsSep 3, 2022 3:52 AM
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Quote from TwinCams :
Question - Anyone buying Applecare with their new MBP?
Just bought AppleCare+ with MBP today!
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Sep 3, 2022 6:27 AM
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lee714Sep 3, 2022 6:27 AM
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Quote from AmusedPlastic6071 :
Go big or go home.

I've been contemplating on buying the 16" for months because of price. Even with 400 off, the 1tb version is still $2200.

My Honda isn't worth that much. Lol
I think I'll still be happy lol. Had a 13 inch macbook air, then went to the 15 inch 2017 macbook pro. Now I'm going small again with the 14 inch. So far its been the perfect size. A little more screen space wouldn't hurt though, but nothing I'm really wanting.
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remaindersSep 3, 2022 3:11 PM
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Quote from Superb_Deals :
This one or M2 Air 16GB/512GB
I prefer the MBA M2.
Sep 3, 2022 6:51 PM
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rc_spence4Sep 3, 2022 6:51 PM
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I purchased from Costco today (09/03) for the same price. They offer a two year warranty.
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paulyshoreSep 3, 2022 7:30 PM
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Need to get a new laptop and want to change from my old dell xps 15 9550.


1. You could run windows by downloading windows bootcamp right? Now back then I read it cost to buy it but now it's free? Anyone here bought a mac just to use windows on it or is that waste of money?


2. How is this processor compared to say a Ryzen 5 or 7 or i5 or i7 laptop whether 11th or 12th generation?


3. Is the battery very good? That is one reason why I am considering this laptop. I do plan to have it connected to 2 external monitors though but if I have say a power outage, I want to use this laptop by itself. Would it last at last 3 hours minimum if you are doing something intensive?


4. What is the graphics card in terms of gaming? Is it much worst than say a 3050? Is it on level with an intel uhd or intel iris xe graphics?


5. Would you choose this over a dell xps 15 9510/9520 or legion slim 7 or legion 5 pro?


6. Could you just replace the ssd yourself and get a 1tb ssd and take out this 512gb ssd or you can't do that? What about the ram? Can you remove it and put in 32gb ram?
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NattefrostSep 3, 2022 8:19 PM
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Still too expensive after tax it's 1700+ who bloody can afford this
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dcliveSep 3, 2022 8:22 PM
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Quote from paulyshore :
Need to get a new laptop and want to change from my old dell xps 15 9550.
1. You could run windows by downloading windows bootcamp right? Now back then I read it cost to buy it but now it's free? Anyone here bought a mac just to use windows on it or is that waste of money?
No. The new ARM chips don't do Bootcamp (free ability to reboot into real, full Windows) anymore. You can run Parallels to run Windows in a VM, but it's hacky, slow, and involves ARM->x86 complexities. Don't do this if your primary goal is running Windows & Windows Intel apps. Do this to run MacOS stuff very well.

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2. How is this processor compared to say a Ryzen 5 or 7 or i5 or i7 laptop whether 11th or 12th generation?
Easiest way is to look up Passmark scores of the CPUs you're interested in comparing. Google "passmark CPUNAME" will do the trick. Single-core most directly impacts user experience for most common user-driven / user-constrained apps.

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3. Is the battery very good? That is one reason why I am considering this laptop. I do plan to have it connected to 2 external monitors though but if I have say a power outage, I want to use this laptop by itself. Would it last at last 3 hours minimum if you are doing something intensive?
It will last for double to triple that without a problem. The battery life with ARM is the best in the business.

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4. What is the graphics card in terms of gaming? Is it much worst than say a 3050? Is it on level with an intel uhd or intel iris xe graphics?
Depends on the game, depends on the app. For Intel games run via Rosetta 2 emulation, it's nothing special (1050Ti maybe? 1060?). For native M1 games, it's pretty good (read the Steam description of the M1 compatible version of Baldur's Gate 3 - it's competitive with the 2070). Apple is working with vendors to bring a few big games to the mix sooner or later, but honestly, don't buy this to game. It's not that market. Or run Apple Arcade games (from the iPhone/iPad - most work very well). But set your expectations at about that level.

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5. Would you choose this over a dell xps 15 9510/9520 or legion slim 7 or legion 5 pro?
What are your expectations? Not to run MacOS apps I wouldn't. Smilie.

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6. Could you just replace the ssd yourself and get a 1tb ssd and take out this 512gb ssd or you can't do that? What about the ram? Can you remove it and put in 32gb ram?
C'mon. You need to read the thread. Smilie. No to both. Nothing's replaceable.

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Sep 3, 2022 10:51 PM
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paulyshoreSep 3, 2022 10:51 PM
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Quote from dclive :
No. The new ARM chips don't do Bootcamp (free ability to reboot into real, full Windows) anymore. You can run Parallels to run Windows in a VM, but it's hacky, slow, and involves ARM->x86 complexities. Don't do this if your primary goal is running Windows & Windows Intel apps. Do this to run MacOS stuff very well.



Easiest way is to look up Passmark scores of the CPUs you're interested in comparing. Google "passmark CPUNAME" will do the trick. Single-core most directly impacts user experience for most common user-driven / user-constrained apps.



It will last for double to triple that without a problem. The battery life with ARM is the best in the business.



Depends on the game, depends on the app. For Intel games run via Rosetta 2 emulation, it's nothing special (1050Ti maybe? 1060?). For native M1 games, it's pretty good (read the Steam description of the M1 compatible version of Baldur's Gate 3 - it's competitive with the 2070). Apple is working with vendors to bring a few big games to the mix sooner or later, but honestly, don't buy this to game. It's not that market. Or run Apple Arcade games (from the iPhone/iPad - most work very well). But set your expectations at about that level.



What are your expectations? Not to run MacOS apps I wouldn't. .



C'mon. You need to read the thread. . No to both. Nothing's replaceable.
Thanks for the reply. I am planning to install windows on it as I need to use windows. I cannot use Mac. So based on just that alone, do not buy it right?


Okay so you cannot upgrade the ram or ssd yourself. Then how can someone even use this laptop for a long time then since 512gb might not last that long?

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dcliveSep 3, 2022 11:16 PM
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Quote from paulyshore :
Thanks for the reply. I am planning to install windows on it as I need to use windows. I cannot use Mac. So based on just that alone, do not buy it right?
You ...can't use Mac? Then why buy one? I guess I'm fundamentally confused. What do you do / what would you do on a laptop? Why are you about to buy one?

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Okay so you cannot upgrade the ram or ssd yourself. Then how can someone even use this laptop for a long time then since 512gb might not last that long?
Really? After all my photos syncs and mail downloads and normal app installs, I'm still at 400GB+ free. What, exactly, should I be worried about here? I have cloud drives, cloud storage for photos (Apple's, $3/mo for up to oh, 200GB I think it is, synced on every device I own, plus private relay, mail forwarding and privacy, HKV support for 5 cameras, etc.)...what should I be worried about?
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paulyshoreSep 3, 2022 11:20 PM
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I was considering this laptop because of the low battery. I wanted a laptop so I could play online poker on it. I use it connected with external monitors but also want a laptop with long battery in case I play only with it. I know it doesn't use intense graphics like people who game but i know it would use graphics card?


Well if someone downloads ton of songs and have programs that use up lot of database, 512gb wouldn't be a lot if you use it for a long time. That is what I meant. I diidn't mean like right after getting it. Also I heard people who play games on the computer, don't those games use up at least 100gb or so? So wouldn't that use up lot of the ssd? So I thought that is a lot for a laptop where you can't just upgrade the storage.


But the long battery is what seem to be good about this. But I have to use windows though as the programs I download and play on will be on that. So don't go with any mac then right? Again I heard back then you could download bootcamp into windows computer.
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Mr.PinkWolfSep 4, 2022 12:37 AM
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Quote from paulyshore :
I was considering this laptop because of the low battery. I wanted a laptop so I could play online poker on it. I use it connected with external monitors but also want a laptop with long battery in case I play only with it. I know it doesn't use intense graphics like people who game but i know it would use graphics card?


Well if someone downloads ton of songs and have programs that use up lot of database, 512gb wouldn't be a lot if you use it for a long time. That is what I meant. I diidn't mean like right after getting it. Also I heard people who play games on the computer, don't those games use up at least 100gb or so? So wouldn't that use up lot of the ssd? So I thought that is a lot for a laptop where you can't just upgrade the storage.


But the long battery is what seem to be good about this. But I have to use windows though as the programs I download and play on will be on that. So don't go with any mac then right? Again I heard back then you could download bootcamp into windows computer.
Let me see if I could give some insight. One commenter gave you some great points one by one, so look at his responses as well. On the M series chips which are Apple-based ARM chips, you cannot dual boot or bootcamp into windows. Like the first response you got, you could use parallels to do so, but it is not optimized well yet, and may never be.

If you need and want windows, I would push you to windows laptops. If you want good battery life and quality build, you may even get cheaper than this. HP Elitebook, LG Gram, and Dell Latitude series are battery powerhouse laptops (at least to me, in windows). You may never reach the actual battery life of some of these though, which some MacBook Airs M1 get to 18 hours of battery life (sounds insane but true).

Also, if you are just doing online poker gaming and some other random work, this particular mac is overkill. easily go for an M1 Macbook Air that still goes for $900 or cheaper on sale.

If you need Windows at this point, you either need an older Mac that runs intel chips or buy a windows laptop. Again, you could do parallels on the M Chips, but I never liked it. If someone else has an opinion on parallels, please chime in.
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dcliveSep 4, 2022 1:36 AM
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Quote from paulyshore :
I was considering this laptop because of the low battery. I wanted a laptop so I could play online poker on it. I use it connected with external monitors but also want a laptop with long battery in case I play only with it. I know it doesn't use intense graphics like people who game but i know it would use graphics card?
If you're using a web browser and you play poker, any machine with a complaint web browser (assumedly Chrome Firefox Edge or Safari) will work flawlessly. That includes Macs, Chromebooks, Windows machines, Linux, and almost anything else under the sun. But see below.

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Well if someone downloads ton of songs and have programs that use up lot of database, 512gb wouldn't be a lot if you use it for a long time. That is what I meant. I diidn't mean like right after getting it. Also I heard people who play games on the computer, don't those games use up at least 100gb or so? So wouldn't that use up lot of the ssd? So I thought that is a lot for a laptop where you can't just upgrade the storage.
I'm not sure what you mean by 'databases' but given your examples (songs are tiny) I suspect you'll be fine, with about 450GB of free space. If you play 100GB games, you probably already know that and can plan ahead accordingly, so that hypothetical person wouldn't ask if a 500GB laptop would work well for them; they would know yea or nea already.

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But the long battery is what seem to be good about this. But I have to use windows though as the programs I download and play on will be on that. So don't go with any mac then right? Again I heard back then you could download bootcamp into windows computer.
Do you play this game via a web browser or via a Windows installed application? Did you google (this application name) and, say, M1 Mac to see what might pop up?
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paulyshoreSep 4, 2022 1:52 AM
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Comments to both of your replies above.


The poker clients that I play on and software that I use with these poker clients only allow windows. You cannot use mac with it because the software used with these poker clients to not support it. These are not poker sites you play on a web browser.


My laptop is an old dell xps 15 9550 with


i5-6300q processor
32gb ram
1tb nvme ssd
intel hd 530 graphics card
nvidia geforce gtx 960m


I experience a ton of lag when playing on these poker sites when playing lot of tables. Basically to make it simple,. the more tables I play, the more lag and freezing I get. Back then there were no issues with this on the same laptop but apparently these poker clients changed their software where it seems you might need a fast graphics card and surely a fast processor to handle it. Does that make sense? The thing is I"m not 100% sure if I need a graphics card like at least a 3050 or not, but I got to assume maybe my processor is a bit slow for it? Again this laptop is an old laptop but its fast enough for everything else that is non poker on my computer. But my primary purpose of my laptop is online poker. Again I play it while connected to 2 external monitors plugged in almost always. Having good battery is important because there are power outages where I am at..


I mean when I play online poker, I use a program that tracks my play. So the more that I play, the more space it uses up. To make it real simple, this same xps 15 9550 I used a 250gb ssd years ago. It was more than enough for many years. Then after all this time, I notice I had less than 30gb available. This was due to my playing and it uses up lot of the database. I can of course delete it but don't want to. So I mean 512gb wouldn't be that much space for someone if they use lot of space on the computer. Again If I didn't play, I would not even come close to 250gb even.


The poker clients and programs I use do require a fast processor and ram and most importantly a ssd which i have used for a while. I want to get a new laptop because my laptop lags/freezes a ton when playing on these sites. So I was considering the dell xps 15 9510/9520 or a legion slim 7 or maybe gaming laptop. But then I saw this apple macbook and wonder if I could use it because the battery being very long would be a pro in case I have power outages. Does that make sense? But I still shouldn't go with any mac computer because I 100% require windows right?
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dcliveSep 4, 2022 1:59 AM
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Quote from paulyshore :
Comments to both of your replies above.


The poker clients that I play on and software that I use with these poker clients only allow windows. You cannot use mac with it because the software used with these poker clients to not support it. These are not poker sites you play on a web browser.
Then you don't want a Mac.

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My laptop is an old dell xps 15 9550 with

i5-6300q processor
32gb ram
1tb nvme ssd
intel hd 530 graphics card
nvidia geforce gtx 960m

I experience a ton of lag when playing on these poker sites when playing lot of tables. Basically to make it simple,. the more tables I play, the more lag and freezing I get. Back then there were no issues with this on the same laptop but apparently these poker clients changed their software where it seems you might need a fast graphics card and surely a fast processor to handle it. Does that make sense? The thing is I"m not 100% sure if I need a graphics card like at least a 3050 or not, but I got to assume maybe my processor is a bit slow for it? Again this laptop is an old laptop but its fast enough for everything else that is non poker on my computer. But my primary purpose of my laptop is online poker. Again I play it while connected to 2 external monitors plugged in almost always. Having good battery is important because there are power outages where I am at..


I mean when I play online poker, I use a program that tracks my play. So the more that I play, the more space it uses up. To make it real simple, this same xps 15 9550 I used a 250gb ssd years ago. It was more than enough for many years. Then after all this time, I notice I had less than 30gb available. This was due to my playing and it uses up lot of the database. I can of course delete it but don't want to. So I mean 512gb wouldn't be that much space for someone if they use lot of space on the computer. Again If I didn't play, I would not even come close to 250gb even.


The poker clients and programs I use do require a fast processor and ram and most importantly a ssd which i have used for a while. I want to get a new laptop because my laptop lags/freezes a ton when playing on these sites. So I was considering the dell xps 15 9510/9520 or a legion slim 7 or maybe gaming laptop. But then I saw this apple macbook and wonder if I could use it because the battery being very long would be a pro in case I have power outages. Does that make sense? But I still shouldn't go with any mac computer because I 100% require windows right?
What's the name of this poker software, just out of curiosity?

It sounds like you're guessing - I see disk, CPU, graphics card - all kinds of possibilites. It might be wise, rather than purchasing anything, to instead try to figure out where the speed / lag holdup / issue is coming from. You could update your drivers, confirm you've got the latest everything, then you could open up Task Manager and Resource Manager and look at what's burning cycles / what's happening when the lag takes place. It's quite possible there's a problem on your machine and you could identify it and fix the situation for free.

That said, that's a slow laptop, and it's not getting any faster.

If you have power outages, buy a UPS. They're $100 - $200 and will fully address the issue, at least for 30 minutes or so. If you have a power outage one wonders how you'd get online, anyway...

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Install this and you will be able to see it (no need to buy or signup)
https://binaryfruit.com/drivedx

using the tool you recommended, it appears to be 5 hours which is good and doesn't indicate it to be an actual demo

however, it shows 130 power cycle count. is this a normal figure?

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